I’ve said this in the past, I’ll say it again: if you haven’t been through the law school application process since COVID, when undergrad GPAs and LAST scores both soared to unimaginable heights, you have no idea what you’re talking about. You sound like grandparents who don’t understand why your kid with a 3.7 and 1480 SAT isn’t getting into Princeton

I think it is fine for parents to help a 21-year-old navigate this process, one which likely ends with the 21-year-old making a decision that saddles them with six figures of debt

I have heard very good things about Spivey and believe they offer a free consultation to see if their services are right for your situation

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Anonymous wrote:Highly recommend Anne Dutia at Spivey Consulting. DC did a limited package with her to be sure the essays were on the mark (no attorneys in the family) and for general advice. DC was highly successful (multiple T14 offers including a T6, and excellent merit offers). Anne was supportive, gave concrete advice, and absolutely worth every penny.

Ridiculous-I got into Chicago, Columbia, NYU, Penn, Michigan, Georgetown etc without even having anyone view my essay.

What year?

For some reason I find this OP disturbing, but I don’t for undergrad. Maybe at a certain point do the work? Stop gaming? I don’t know.

Anonymous wrote:Every unhooked law student we know who got into a T14 in the past 5 years came from a top undergrad (Stanford, Duke, Harvard, Penn, Northwestern, UCLA, and Georgetown). We know tons of prelaw students from UVA and WM and none of them have gotten into T14 that did not have a hook.

Law is the new most-popular goal for non-stem majors, and even for some stem majors. Applications have soared.

What is a law school hook?

Anonymous wrote:It would be a waste of time for law school. All that matters is gpa and lsat.

This. It’s actually merit-based.

Anonymous wrote:Hello! Does anyone have any experiences (positive or negative) with law school admissions consultants? My DS has great test scores/GPA, but is worried about how competitive admissions has gotten for the top tier law schools. We didn't use a consultant for college and regretted it a bit (coming from a big public HS), and I was hoping to hear about others' experiences with law school.

This is a thing now?

signed,
old grad of T5 law school

Anonymous wrote:Highly recommend Anne Dutia at Spivey Consulting. DC did a limited package with her to be sure the essays were on the mark (no attorneys in the family) and for general advice. DC was highly successful (multiple T14 offers including a T6, and excellent merit offers). Anne was supportive, gave concrete advice, and absolutely worth every penny.

Ridiculous-I got into Chicago, Columbia, NYU, Penn, Michigan, Georgetown etc without even having anyone view my essay.

If an application allows only two letters of recommendation, is it better to have two stellar professor recommendations (student achieved top grades in both majors) or only one academic letter plus one post-grad employment letter? The employer letter would be okay but probably bland, since that's how the organization operates. Would prefer to do the two academic letters since they would be more effusive.

Anonymous wrote:Hello! Does anyone have any experiences (positive or negative) with law school admissions consultants? My DS has great test scores/GPA, but is worried about how competitive admissions has gotten for the top tier law schools. We didn't use a consultant for college and regretted it a bit (coming from a big public HS), and I was hoping to hear about others' experiences with law school.

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It’s all grades and LSAT. What a ridiculous waste of$$. Also good recommendations help.

What is a "hook" for law school? Does legacy matter? And if so, is it that the parent went to that law school (as opposed to the university)? This seems ridiculous.

Anonymous wrote:It would be a waste of time for law school. All that matters is gpa and lsat.

+1

as a lawyer, it honestly depresses me that this is a question being asked by a parent about their adult child, who is aiming to enter the upper echelons of my field. if you don't trust your son to navigate the (truly, quite simple) law school admissions process, what makes you think he's cut out to be a lawyer? it sounds like he is smart and capable. if he is, this is demeaning.

Every unhooked law student we know who got into a T14 in the past 5 years came from a top undergrad (Stanford, Duke, Harvard, Penn, Northwestern, UCLA, and Georgetown). We know tons of prelaw students from UVA and WM and none of them have gotten into T14 that did not have a hook.

Law is the new most-popular goal for non-stem majors, and even for some stem majors. Applications have soared.