Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Just curious.
Men were hunters and women gatherers for a long time in human history. Evolution swing takes time.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s as acceptable as wives accept it.
+1 No family member can exploit you without your consent.
I did end the relationship, but, please, let’s not pretend it’s simple or easy.
I was 6 mos. pregnant with #2 when I started to plan leaving. Abusive tendencies don’t come out in the beginning of a relationship, sometimes not for years until the abuser feels the woman is firmly on the hook and can’t get away. And, yes, using someone else to do your mental and physical labor is an abuse of power even if it doesn’t involve physical abuse.
Ending the relationship took a serious amount of financial capital and a big social support network. I suffered from gaslighting and attempts at coercive control. And, while I left the man, the “extra child” behavior continues to this day - 2 decades later. Yes, I grey rock him, only communicate in writing (slowly and briefly), and just pay for everything myself because asking him to contribute his fair share just opens us all to more contact and bad behavior, but leaving the extra child doesn’t end the behavior although it does limit the space it takes up in our daily lives.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It’s as acceptable as wives accept it.
+1 No family member can exploit you without your consent.
Anonymous wrote:It’s as acceptable as wives accept it.
Anonymous wrote:Just curious.
Anonymous wrote:It’s as acceptable as wives accept it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All them men in my life are/were hard workers and contributors. Father. Brothers. Uncle. Husband.
But, are they really "hard workers and contributors" if they can't also manage to adult and do things like meal plans, carpools, cleaning, laundry, etc? I think not.
Men work hard outside the home because they get paid for it (both immediately and in terms of the long term safety net), and they earn social capital. That doesn't excuse them when they behave like an extra child in the rest of family life.
DP Male contributors in my circle manage meal plans, carpools, cleaning, laundry...
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All them men in my life are/were hard workers and contributors. Father. Brothers. Uncle. Husband.
But, are they really "hard workers and contributors" if they can't also manage to adult and do things like meal plans, carpools, cleaning, laundry, etc? I think not.
Men work hard outside the home because they get paid for it (both immediately and in terms of the long term safety net), and they earn social capital. That doesn't excuse them when they behave like an extra child in the rest of family life.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:All them men in my life are/were hard workers and contributors. Father. Brothers. Uncle. Husband.
But, are they really "hard workers and contributors" if they can't also manage to adult and do things like meal plans, carpools, cleaning, laundry, etc? I think not.
Men work hard outside the home because they get paid for it (both immediately and in terms of the long term safety net), and they earn social capital. That doesn't excuse them when they behave like an extra child in the rest of family life.
Anonymous wrote:All them men in my life are/were hard workers and contributors. Father. Brothers. Uncle. Husband.