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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

My ex was desperate to be a dad. He spent two years begging me and wearing me down. I was always meh about the idea. I realized only later that he was trying to get a permanent hold on me because he knew I was ambivalent about him. Unsurprisingly, he's a dogshit dad.

You married someone you were ambivalent about without discussing how you each felt about having kids. You had a child though you were meh about that too. And he’s somehow to blame?

She didn't say they were married so I assume they weren't since she mentioned the ex was trying to get a permanent hold on her. So if she was married that would already be a permanent hold on her versus no marriage and holding her down because she had his baby.

So she had a child who she didn’t really want with a bf she didn’t really like. Nice.

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Anonymous wrote:When most of them are crappy fathers anyway. Same with women.

They're not desperate to be dads. They're desperate for the social benefits (i.e., taken more seriously at work) of attaining the status of dad. They're also competitive with other men, with kids being just another collectible like cars or watches. That's why they always find a woman to foist all the responsibility on while they mentally check out and chase the next item on their never ending bucket list.

I 100% agree on this! And it's same with a woman now that you mention it. If a woman says she doesn't have kids, she's taken less seriously at work by male coworkers and woman who already have kids and even single moms. It's like everyone at work has less respect for childless women. And it's the most unfair thing ever.

I don't know where you live and work, but it isn't America or you're not very successful. Women don't get a career boost from having kids. If anything, countless studies and any real life career woman's experiences will tell you that every aspect of workplace child bearing is stigmatized for women. Everyone resents the woman who has to go on maternity leave. When she comes back, they start shunting her into lesser roles with decreased visibility. She's first on the chopping block for a pay cut or firing. People assume she can afford to lose her job because she really should be home with the kids and her husband can pay the bills. There's a reason the term "mommy track" was invented.

Literally only men get a career and financial boost from marriage and fatherhood. Having children is consequence free for men and laden with perks, as much as they whine about having to even financial support their kids.

Love how no one jumping on OP’s assertion that women are desperate to have kids.

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Anonymous wrote:When most of them are crappy fathers anyway. Same with women.

They're not desperate to be dads. They're desperate for the social benefits (i.e., taken more seriously at work) of attaining the status of dad. They're also competitive with other men, with kids being just another collectible like cars or watches. That's why they always find a woman to foist all the responsibility on while they mentally check out and chase the next item on their never ending bucket list.

I 100% agree on this! And it's same with a woman now that you mention it. If a woman says she doesn't have kids, she's taken less seriously at work by male coworkers and woman who already have kids and even single moms. It's like everyone at work has less respect for childless women. And it's the most unfair thing ever.

Unfair to women and to men?

Man treated each other the same in my experience and the single moms or mothers don't seem to think anything of childless men but yes of childless women.

Never ever met a man desperate to be a father.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

My ex was desperate to be a dad. He spent two years begging me and wearing me down. I was always meh about the idea. I realized only later that he was trying to get a permanent hold on me because he knew I was ambivalent about him. Unsurprisingly, he's a dogshit dad.

You married someone you were ambivalent about without discussing how you each felt about having kids. You had a child though you were meh about that too. And he’s somehow to blame?

She didn't say they were married so I assume they weren't since she mentioned the ex was trying to get a permanent hold on her. So if she was married that would already be a permanent hold on her versus no marriage and holding her down because she had his baby.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:When most of them are crappy fathers anyway. Same with women.

They're not desperate to be dads. They're desperate for the social benefits (i.e., taken more seriously at work) of attaining the status of dad. They're also competitive with other men, with kids being just another collectible like cars or watches. That's why they always find a woman to foist all the responsibility on while they mentally check out and chase the next item on their never ending bucket list.

I 100% agree on this! And it's same with a woman now that you mention it. If a woman says she doesn't have kids, she's taken less seriously at work by male coworkers and woman who already have kids and even single moms. It's like everyone at work has less respect for childless women. And it's the most unfair thing ever.

Unfair to women and to men?

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

They think dads like me who’ve previously had kids, and are willing to give another women some, are desperate to have more kids for her validation or approval , we aren’t. I’m a good dad, willing to have more, that’s what we’re here to do.

Why do white men like to act as if whatever they're doing is brand new and special? There's nothing new about irresponsible men with hoodrat values running around knocking up multiple women. You're a serial baby daddy because, like all the other serial baby daddies of the world, you're irresponsible with no care for how serious a decision having a baby is.

You know you're not carrying a single pregnancy, you have no intention of doing any of the hard work of raising the child, so why not have 10 kids? You don't care about kids. You care about finding new pussy to leave a mark on. You're the human equivalent of a mosquito that goes around biting one woman after the other. The much maligned inner city absentee dad is your spiritual brother.

I’m already divorced with four kids, I take care of my own kids.

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

My ex was desperate to be a dad. He spent two years begging me and wearing me down. I was always meh about the idea. I realized only later that he was trying to get a permanent hold on me because he knew I was ambivalent about him. Unsurprisingly, he's a dogshit dad.

You married someone you were ambivalent about without discussing how you each felt about having kids. You had a child though you were meh about that too. And he’s somehow to blame?

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Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

My ex was desperate to be a dad. He spent two years begging me and wearing me down. I was always meh about the idea. I realized only later that he was trying to get a permanent hold on me because he knew I was ambivalent about him. Unsurprisingly, he's a dogshit dad.

Yikes! Now that you've mention it, I think that's what my boyfriend is trying to do If I didn't know better.

Anonymous wrote:OP find new hobbies or therapy.

I believe that's you. I opened up a great debate.

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Anonymous wrote:When most of them are crappy fathers anyway. Same with women.

They're not desperate to be dads. They're desperate for the social benefits (i.e., taken more seriously at work) of attaining the status of dad. They're also competitive with other men, with kids being just another collectible like cars or watches. That's why they always find a woman to foist all the responsibility on while they mentally check out and chase the next item on their never ending bucket list.

I 100% agree on this! And it's same with a woman now that you mention it. If a woman says she doesn't have kids, she's taken less seriously at work by male coworkers and woman who already have kids and even single moms. It's like everyone at work has less respect for childless women. And it's the most unfair thing ever.

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

My ex was desperate to be a dad. He spent two years begging me and wearing me down. I was always meh about the idea. I realized only later that he was trying to get a permanent hold on me because he knew I was ambivalent about him. Unsurprisingly, he's a dogshit dad.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I’ve never met a man desperate to be a dad. Are these the same men who have pregnant women fetishes?

Dh is a fantastic dad, as were our own dads. All would have had full, happy lives without children. Dh wasn’t bothered by our own infertility issues.

In my own life, it’s the women I know who really want kids and have to convince men to have kids.

They think dads like me who’ve previously had kids, and are willing to give another women some, are desperate to have more kids for her validation or approval , we aren’t. I’m a good dad, willing to have more, that’s what we’re here to do.

Why do white men like to act as if whatever they're doing is brand new and special? There's nothing new about irresponsible men with hoodrat values running around knocking up multiple women. You're a serial baby daddy because, like all the other serial baby daddies of the world, you're irresponsible with no care for how serious a decision having a baby is.

You know you're not carrying a single pregnancy, you have no intention of doing any of the hard work of raising the child, so why not have 10 kids? You don't care about kids. You care about finding new pussy to leave a mark on. You're the human equivalent of a mosquito that goes around biting one woman after the other. The much maligned inner city absentee dad is your spiritual brother.

OP find new hobbies or therapy.