Anonymous wrote:Regret that TJ was opted for in 9th based on senior year college rejections or acceptances?

If your kid regrets for this reason, your kiddo is not as smart as you think.

Anonymous wrote:Regret that TJ was opted for in 9th based on senior year college rejections or acceptances?

Low probability scenario, as by senior year it’s kind of too late for regrets to matter. Usually hits earlier, like sophomore year end especially if GPA isn’t great with bunch of Cs on transcript even without rigorous coursework, and the reality of college prospects starts to sink in, and that’s when the regret really sets in.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

This is irrelevant for adults. What employer is going to be impressed with a high school that someone graduated from years before? No one is looking at a Penn State grad and saying but he went to TJ nor is someone looking at a Harvard grad thinking wow he also went to TJ. They are looking at your last school/last accomplishments/last job, etc. If those kids go off to college and do amazing things there, that is what gets jobs OR connections get jobs.

Trust me, I didn't believe it either. But I was making fun of my colleague for keeping Exeter in his LinkedIn profile. He insists he's made many connections through Exeter and specifically from Exeter connections on LinkedIn messaging him. I think for high schools with a national or international reputation, it might make a difference. Schools like Andover, Exeter, TJ, Stuyvesant, Lowell. All others, I agree with you.

It makes zero difference for TJ.

LOL then why does the managing partner at a big law firm unsolicitedly talk about her TJ experience? Presumably because it's something she actually cares about. And she has a lot of influence over a lot of highly desirable jobs.

Look, I have no dog in this fight. I went to a crappy high school.

And another partner could value Oakton grads or Yorktown grads bc he/she went there. Impressive would be countless employers who did NOT go to TJ seeking out TJ grads.

Except that’s not happening for Oakton or Yorktown.

The TJ alumni network is helpful for finding and getting jobs.

I’m in a STEM field and TJ does come up every now and then.

Anonymous wrote:The school tells people not to go there if you want to go to top schools, there is too much competition. If you really want 0ne of the top 25 schools, go to your base school. I have an 8th grader applying for TJ and we have discussed this with him. It will come up again if he is accepted at TJ.

We have been having the same conversation. We are an APS family so our school experience (no AAP) has been different. TJ is appealing because they’d have peers equally as capable/dedicated to school. But there are tradeoffs too and it doesn’t guarantee good college placement so there is risk.

Anonymous wrote:Lol. Is your kid supposed to be identical to mine? I'm just saying what me and my kid thought.

Of course not! But it just seems like you are attributing your kid’s college outcome bc of TJ rather than bc of your kid.

Adding one more note - I was not a TJ grad, but at MIT there was a bunch of us that were upset about graduate school admissions. Mostly it was our grade point average that meant we wouldn't get to the interview process.

My friends and I had our graduate school rejection letters from Harvard posted in the bathroom. All of us landed at great schools, so looking back on it, it was no big deal. That said, it still stung.

In the absolute worst case scenario, a friend applied to 25 medical schools and got into none. She had to do a masters and reapply. She did eventually get in and became a MD.

I discovered when my kid went to TJ that he had no interest in a school like MIT. I guess I'd rather him figure that out before I pay 90K/year.

I do feel a little butthurt because I went to MIT lol.

Lol. Is your kid supposed to be identical to mine? I'm just saying what me and my kid thought.

Anonymous wrote:Nope! I have a TJ grad (graduated in the past five years) at a T10. A large part of this result I, and they, believe is due to motivation by peer group and access to special opportunities (landing internships w/ TJ name, doing research/projects with other motivated and smart TJ kids). If they went to base would likely not have done as much in HS or gone somewhere as good.

My kid is heading to an ivy, from FCPS unhooked, in the fall. Why do you believe your last sentence?

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

This is irrelevant for adults. What employer is going to be impressed with a high school that someone graduated from years before? No one is looking at a Penn State grad and saying but he went to TJ nor is someone looking at a Harvard grad thinking wow he also went to TJ. They are looking at your last school/last accomplishments/last job, etc. If those kids go off to college and do amazing things there, that is what gets jobs OR connections get jobs.

Trust me, I didn't believe it either. But I was making fun of my colleague for keeping Exeter in his LinkedIn profile. He insists he's made many connections through Exeter and specifically from Exeter connections on LinkedIn messaging him. I think for high schools with a national or international reputation, it might make a difference. Schools like Andover, Exeter, TJ, Stuyvesant, Lowell. All others, I agree with you.

It makes zero difference for TJ.

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-Mid-‘90s TJ grad

Please read above. You can’t objectively be the judge. It is NON TJ people thinking where you went to HS (30 years ago) is impressive still and helps you in the job or related opportunities and can explain how this is true wrt getting employment opportunities.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

This is irrelevant for adults. What employer is going to be impressed with a high school that someone graduated from years before? No one is looking at a Penn State grad and saying but he went to TJ nor is someone looking at a Harvard grad thinking wow he also went to TJ. They are looking at your last school/last accomplishments/last job, etc. If those kids go off to college and do amazing things there, that is what gets jobs OR connections get jobs.

Trust me, I didn't believe it either. But I was making fun of my colleague for keeping Exeter in his LinkedIn profile. He insists he's made many connections through Exeter and specifically from Exeter connections on LinkedIn messaging him. I think for high schools with a national or international reputation, it might make a difference. Schools like Andover, Exeter, TJ, Stuyvesant, Lowell. All others, I agree with you.

It makes zero difference for TJ.

Disagree

-Mid-‘90s TJ grad

Nope! I have a TJ grad (graduated in the past five years) at a T10. A large part of this result I, and they, believe is due to motivation by peer group and access to special opportunities (landing internships w/ TJ name, doing research/projects with other motivated and smart TJ kids). If they went to base would likely not have done as much in HS or gone somewhere as good.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

This is irrelevant for adults. What employer is going to be impressed with a high school that someone graduated from years before? No one is looking at a Penn State grad and saying but he went to TJ nor is someone looking at a Harvard grad thinking wow he also went to TJ. They are looking at your last school/last accomplishments/last job, etc. If those kids go off to college and do amazing things there, that is what gets jobs OR connections get jobs.

Trust me, I didn't believe it either. But I was making fun of my colleague for keeping Exeter in his LinkedIn profile. He insists he's made many connections through Exeter and specifically from Exeter connections on LinkedIn messaging him. I think for high schools with a national or international reputation, it might make a difference. Schools like Andover, Exeter, TJ, Stuyvesant, Lowell. All others, I agree with you.

It makes zero difference for TJ.

LOL then why does the managing partner at a big law firm unsolicitedly talk about her TJ experience? Presumably because it's something she actually cares about. And she has a lot of influence over a lot of highly desirable jobs.

Look, I have no dog in this fight. I went to a crappy high school.

And another partner could value Oakton grads or Yorktown grads bc he/she went there. Impressive would be countless employers who did NOT go to TJ seeking out TJ grads.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

This is irrelevant for adults. What employer is going to be impressed with a high school that someone graduated from years before? No one is looking at a Penn State grad and saying but he went to TJ nor is someone looking at a Harvard grad thinking wow he also went to TJ. They are looking at your last school/last accomplishments/last job, etc. If those kids go off to college and do amazing things there, that is what gets jobs OR connections get jobs.

Trust me, I didn't believe it either. But I was making fun of my colleague for keeping Exeter in his LinkedIn profile. He insists he's made many connections through Exeter and specifically from Exeter connections on LinkedIn messaging him. I think for high schools with a national or international reputation, it might make a difference. Schools like Andover, Exeter, TJ, Stuyvesant, Lowell. All others, I agree with you.

It makes zero difference for TJ.

LOL then why does the managing partner at a big law firm unsolicitedly talk about her TJ experience? Presumably because it's something she actually cares about. And she has a lot of influence over a lot of highly desirable jobs.

Look, I have no dog in this fight. I went to a crappy high school.

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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why you’d want a “great” HS experience but a lower named/ranked school unless it was the kid’s choice (turned down an ivy for a full ride at uva).

Because a job might care about what college you attend, they won’t care about what HS you attend. Most people have no clue about TJ but they know Harvard or MIT.

Buahaha, that's what you think. TJ got me every job I ever had. I know lawyers who got clerkships based on TJ (yes, layered on top of whatever law school). Yeah maybe TJ's reach is more geographically limited, but lots of people know TJ.

It's really amazing how many people think coming here to trash TJ or going to the private school forum to trash specific top tier privates will make other kids turn these schools down and give their kids a better chance. People - not enough applicants read your DCUM post, then think, "Huh, maybe I won't go there after all" for your kid to get in.

How would an adult (after college) job know about your HS (name, gpa, ap scores etc)?

People who went to nationally renowned high schools often leave it on their LinkedIn "education" section.

Too funny.