Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
My kid goes to the Arlington/McLean young life and what you’re saying cannot be further for the truth. Many of these kids INCLUDING MINE have family members, friends in the communities you say young life is disparaging and they would not put up with that for two seconds. Especially my kid who is an activist ! You are stating this as truth, while you have never even personally experienced it- yikes- and it’s not reflective of everyone’s experience. I agree with you that many evangelical environments are terrible when it comes to human rights, but you’re painting young life with a broad brush that isn’t reflective of many of our experiences.
You don't know what goes on in YL. So don't assume because other people have made the mistake of letting their kids get involved in it, that it's safe.
Anonymous wrote:My teen’s school is going to younglife camp this summer and she’s interested in going. Camp isn’t excessively expensive at $1100 and cost is not a factor but safety wise, what have your experiences been? Moreso how do they ensure kids are safe in the water, on zip lines, ect. Also how do they manage safety with the leaders and the kids? It seems like a lot of people are in and out through the summer so wondering how background checks were handled. Also don’t see they are ACA accredited like other camps they have been to but know the format is different for YL.
Only feeling a little paranoid after going down a rabbit hole with the Camp Mystic stuff last summer, and making sure kids are safe especially with ropes course type stuff and weather.
Anonymous wrote:My teen’s school is going to younglife camp this summer and she’s interested in going. Camp isn’t excessively expensive at $1100 and cost is not a factor but safety wise, what have your experiences been? Moreso how do they ensure kids are safe in the water, on zip lines, ect. Also how do they manage safety with the leaders and the kids? It seems like a lot of people are in and out through the summer so wondering how background checks were handled. Also don’t see they are ACA accredited like other camps they have been to but know the format is different for YL.
Only feeling a little paranoid after going down a rabbit hole with the Camp Mystic stuff last summer, and making sure kids are safe especially with ropes course type stuff and weather.
Anonymous wrote:I went to a Young Life retreat/camping during my sophomore year of high school. I was raised Catholic, had Jewish friends and refused to say they were going to hell during a small group discussion one night in our cabin. Leaders took me out by myself into the woods to tell me I was going to hell if I didn't change what I was saying, and kept on me the entire weekend if I wanted to go to a room where at the end of camp you say you are committing your life to Jesus. There is another room for those unsure of their commitment.
I went to the Jesus room and was considered "born again" per a card they gave me after...it was my 15th birthday and my "born again" day.
I wrote my college essay about the experience and years later as an adult looked into Young Life bc of all this.
They carefully select kids in the school who are accessible and popular and build the program around them. There was an adult who was always around the school, he was a substitute teacher but was "cool" - he was recruiting kids in.
I know people who loved the camp but I would be wary, especially if they don't have the ACA accreditation. I don't think the way they handled adults and kids was above board and I also don't think my parents had any clue I was going to be alone with adults I didn't know who were telling me to condemn non-Christians to hell. I didn't go back after that experience and would not let my DD go. FWIW I'm still Catholic and practicing so not opposed to religion but opposed to that.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
My kid goes to the Arlington/McLean young life and what you’re saying cannot be further for the truth. Many of these kids INCLUDING MINE have family members, friends in the communities you say young life is disparaging and they would not put up with that for two seconds. Especially my kid who is an activist ! You are stating this as truth, while you have never even personally experienced it- yikes- and it’s not reflective of everyone’s experience. I agree with you that many evangelical environments are terrible when it comes to human rights, but you’re painting young life with a broad brush that isn’t reflective of many of our experiences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
My kid goes to the Arlington/McLean young life and what you’re saying cannot be further for the truth. Many of these kids INCLUDING MINE have family members, friends in the communities you say young life is disparaging and they would not put up with that for two seconds. Especially my kid who is an activist ! You are stating this as truth, while you have never even personally experienced it- yikes- and it’s not reflective of everyone’s experience. I agree with you that many evangelical environments are terrible when it comes to human rights, but you’re painting young life with a broad brush that isn’t reflective of many of our experiences.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
My kid goes to the Arlington/McLean young life and what you’re saying cannot be further for the truth. Many of these kids INCLUDING MINE have family members, friends in the communities you say young life is disparaging and they would not put up with that for two seconds. Especially my kid who is an activist ! You are stating this as truth, while you have never even personally experienced it- yikes- and it’s not reflective of everyone’s experience. I agree with you that many evangelical environments are terrible when it comes to human rights, but you’re painting young life with a broad brush that isn’t reflective of many of our experiences.
Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
Anonymous wrote:I go to church on Sundays and Wednesdays. My husband has been a deacon multiple times and we lead our church marriage ministry. So those are some of my “Christian credentials” for lack of a better term. I’m also a Christian who does not think my non-Christian friends are going to burn in hell. And I believe that being Christian doesn’t mean you are inherently a “good person.”
YL would not be reflective of my values system. I currently attend a Methodist church that is LGBTQ affirming and focused on social justice issues. I would not send my kid to a YL camp because it is not reflective of how I want to raise my kid. My kid has done various church camps/retreats over the years. I do also believe that YL targets the pretty and the popular, which I don’t think is in the spirit of WWJD.
Anonymous wrote:What is wrong with YL? Why do people on DCUM not like it? Would love feedback from other Christians that don’t like it