Anonymous wrote:Yup. Both in-laws grew up in the 3rd world with no refrigeration. *They* never get sick so *they* don’t care to learn.

It’s possible that some items like chicken were actually less contaminated there and that traditional means of storage or preparation were food safe like ceviche.

You actually want to put the raw meat on the bottom, that’s correct.

Yup. Both in-laws grew up in the 3rd world with no refrigeration. *They* never get sick so *they* don’t care to learn.

My mom ate cottage cheese off the floor today.

If the meat is covered who cares? If it’s not covered, nothing should be on top of it obviously.

The cake thing is also fine. It’s cooked enough.

Anonymous wrote:My mom is the same way. Somehow we never get sick. She thinks I'm crazy for being concerned about food safety.

My mom is also the same way and I had unexplained diarrhea constantly growing up. Then, once while visiting as an adult, I ended up in the ER sh*tting blood from food poisoning. She was making brick chicken on the grill w a foil wrapped brick but never changed the foil after multiple uses (over months of time)… found maggots under that foil. Anyway, we stopped visiting after that and started inviting her here for new holiday traditions with safe food options. She was angry about the change but had to deal.

It’s always the IL’s here. Quit complaining and just don’t eat.

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Anonymous wrote:What do you mean food is on top of the raw meat? Touching it? Where else should she store raw meat before cooking? This isn't an industrial kitchen that has to follow food handling rules.

Completely Uncovered? Gross.

You’re supposed to store some meats uncovered in the fridge before roasting so it dries off and gets crispy. There’s no food safety risk if it’s not touching anything.

OP, my ILs are like this and I am just selective about what I eat at their house. With family meals I always contribute a couple sides so there's always something for me to eat even if they do weird things with the rest. My kid is similar. We are polite about it but just wary about items that appear undercooked or expired.

As they have gotten older, they cook less and the problem solves itself. We like cooking and are happy to step in. We take them out for meals.

It's just one of those things I deal with when visiting them. It's only a couple times a year so it's not too bad for us. If we lived closer, I'd probably try to host whenever I could to avoid this issue.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else that can relate?

Refuses to temperature check a turkey
Takes cake out of the oven when checked & middle is raw / under done
Has raw beef in the fridge and putting other raw-consumed items on top of it.

...I've been going here for a decade and don't think I've seen her this bad before.

Given I'm in her home, do I just not eat?

Am I your MIL?

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Anonymous wrote:I would eat only what I brought. That’s gross.

You have clearly never eaten in a restaurant or in most countries in the world. Our immune system is pretty hardy.

It’s not worth it, especially for poultry. Food poisoning can have really serious impact - I have a relative who was disabled for life by poorly prepared chicken. I probably wouldn’t get that worked up about eggs or even whole beef cuts - but chicken, always needs to be treated as if radioactive until it’s cooked properly.

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Anonymous wrote:I would eat only what I brought. That’s gross.

You have clearly never eaten in a restaurant or in most countries in the world. Our immune system is pretty hardy.

Right? Just binge on some episodes of Gordon Ramsay where he does a restaurant makeover. It’s a wonder we’re all still alive after eating in most restaurants.

Anonymous wrote:I would eat only what I brought. That’s gross.

You have clearly never eaten in a restaurant or in most countries in the world. Our immune system is pretty hardy.

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Anonymous wrote:Anyone else that can relate?

Refuses to temperature check a turkey
Takes cake out of the oven when checked & middle is raw / under done
Has raw beef in the fridge and putting other raw-consumed items on top of it.

...I've been going here for a decade and don't think I've seen her this bad before.

Given I'm in her home, do I just not eat?

And what? Doesn't finish baking it or it's not baked enough to your liking?

I think a raw cake would fall apart. You can also tell when poultry is undercooked and you wouldn’t eat it. These problems solve themselves. Also berries aren’t going to catch a cold from sitting near meat in a fridge.

Anonymous wrote:Anyone else that can relate?

Refuses to temperature check a turkey
Takes cake out of the oven when checked & middle is raw / under done
Has raw beef in the fridge and putting other raw-consumed items on top of it.

...I've been going here for a decade and don't think I've seen her this bad before.

Given I'm in her home, do I just not eat?

We have a relative by marriage that creates problems. Eat prepackaged/takeout and food like roasted veggies or mashed potatoes straight from the cooking pot or tray. Skip fresh produce if they rinse berries and leave in colander in sink used for handwashing and dirty dishes. ie washes raw egg hands in the sink over the berries. Cuts cantelope with a knife that was out for hours sitting on a cutting board that also was used including for charcuterie.

People got sick one year from large undercooked turkey - followed time frames - thermometer. Most passed on eating it - saw pink etc.