Anonymous wrote:I went through this with an ex. He strung me along for 4 years.
I think for him, it was just that he followed the path of least resistance. I wouldn't move in unless he agreed to get engaged, so he agreed. Then once I did move in, he didn't propose because it was just too much work. But he wouldn't break up because that was also too much work. The easiest thing was just to coast for 3 more years and deal with my outbursts every 3-4 months, until I had enough and left him. Then he bought a cheap ring and proposed in a really lame way to try to keep me from leaving.
Someone here once described it as, there are people who slide into a relationship (just do what is easy) vs people who decide into a relationship (make a conscious decision). He was a slider, and I could never get him to have an actual conversation about what he wanted.
Anonymous wrote:I just read the thread about the 26yo whose 34yo boyfriend still hasn’t proposed after 3 years of dating and it has got me thinking about why men do this.
I know many women who’ve experienced this. The guy would always know that his girlfriend wants commitment and he knew he wasn’t planning to her give her that, yet, would continue to date her and waste years of her time.
Why aren’t they just upfront about their intentions and end the relationship?
Anonymous wrote:An anecdote about this. Told by a long married, older neighbor. She told her long term boyfriend, "I want to be married to you. But if you don't want to be married, I need to be dating other people." And she did. And no longer saw him. He had some months experiencing this new normal, evaluated his feelings and intentions and proposed marriage.
This is what I would suggest to young women. Women who do want to be married. If you don't want to be married that's ok too. But if you do, it's not exactly an ultimatum. It's just stating the truth. I can't be devoted to you, for any longer, if you're not wanting to be married.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just read the thread about the 26yo whose 34yo boyfriend still hasn’t proposed after 3 years of dating and it has got me thinking about why men do this.
I know many women who’ve experienced this. The guy would always know that his girlfriend wants commitment and he knew he wasn’t planning to her give her that, yet, would continue to date her and waste years of her time.
Why aren’t they just upfront about their intentions and end the relationship?
As I get older I see that women don't give themselves enough agency. That can always leave when they are not getting what they want. No need to be a victim.
We also give men too much credit for having a 'motivation'. They generally have no idea what they are doing.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:An anecdote about this. Told by a long married, older neighbor. She told her long term boyfriend, "I want to be married to you. But if you don't want to be married, I need to be dating other people." And she did. And no longer saw him. He had some months experiencing this new normal, evaluated his feelings and intentions and proposed marriage.
This is what I would suggest to young women. Women who do want to be married. If you don't want to be married that's ok too. But if you do, it's not exactly an ultimatum. It's just stating the truth. I can't be devoted to you, for any longer, if you're not wanting to be married.
That’s some 1990s “The Ring” sh@t. lol
We all read that and practiced it. That book was even mentioned on SATC😂

Anonymous wrote:I went through this with an ex. He strung me along for 4 years.
I think for him, it was just that he followed the path of least resistance. I wouldn't move in unless he agreed to get engaged, so he agreed. Then once I did move in, he didn't propose because it was just too much work. But he wouldn't break up because that was also too much work. The easiest thing was just to coast for 3 more years and deal with my outbursts every 3-4 months, until I had enough and left him. Then he bought a cheap ring and proposed in a really lame way to try to keep me from leaving.
Someone here once described it as, there are people who slide into a relationship (just do what is easy) vs people who decide into a relationship (make a conscious decision). He was a slider, and I could never get him to have an actual conversation about what he wanted.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just read the thread about the 26yo whose 34yo boyfriend still hasn’t proposed after 3 years of dating and it has got me thinking about why men do this.
I know many women who’ve experienced this. The guy would always know that his girlfriend wants commitment and he knew he wasn’t planning to her give her that, yet, would continue to date her and waste years of her time.
Why aren’t they just upfront about their intentions and end the relationship?
As I get older I see that women don't give themselves enough agency. That can always leave when they are not getting what they want. No need to be a victim.
We also give men too much credit for having a 'motivation'. They generally have no idea what they are doing.
Anonymous wrote:An anecdote about this. Told by a long married, older neighbor. She told her long term boyfriend, "I want to be married to you. But if you don't want to be married, I need to be dating other people." And she did. And no longer saw him. He had some months experiencing this new normal, evaluated his feelings and intentions and proposed marriage.
This is what I would suggest to young women. Women who do want to be married. If you don't want to be married that's ok too. But if you do, it's not exactly an ultimatum. It's just stating the truth. I can't be devoted to you, for any longer, if you're not wanting to be married.
Anonymous wrote:I guess she has no agency at all. She is completely at the mercy of his whims. She couldn’t have broken up with him at any point. So sad!
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I just read the thread about the 26yo whose 34yo boyfriend still hasn’t proposed after 3 years of dating and it has got me thinking about why men do this.
I know many women who’ve experienced this. The guy would always know that his girlfriend wants commitment and he knew he wasn’t planning to her give her that, yet, would continue to date her and waste years of her time.
Why aren’t they just upfront about their intentions and end the relationship?
As I get older I see that women don't give themselves enough agency. That can always leave when they are not getting what they want. No need to be a victim.
We also give men too much credit for having a 'motivation'. They generally have no idea what they are doing.