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Anonymous wrote:What does being from a private high school have to do with anything? A deferral is a deferral.

Historically deferred kids have a much higher chance of getting in to many top schools from a private. The college counselors know the reps well.

Can you provide any proof of this, or is it something you just “feel?”

Typical DCUM bullshit. Treating anecdotes as facts.

Anonymous wrote:WashU accepts deferrals from ED. Almost 2/3 of admits are from the ED round.

Wow. That’s huge

What's his ED2 school? What level? Did he stick with T20 or go down a level?

Thanks everyone for the input. DC has decided it’s best to move on. He has a second choice for ED2 that he will be happy to attend and is less selective. Good luck to all the deferrals.

Pre-covid, JHU places ~15% ED pool on deferral. Not sure what is the current practice on deferral as no one is reporting data anymore.

Anonymous wrote:In 2023 JHU acceptance rate ~20% for ED1, ~10$ for ED2 and ~5% for RD. That has changed in the last 2 years, with 2023 acceptance rate for combined ED1 and ED2 at 10.5% and RD at 4.2%. Consider that about 800 are accepted in ED1 & ED2, and about 2,500 in RD. This means the ED2 still provide a significant advantage compared to RD. Around early Jan, after the deadline for ED2 and RD, JHU typically contacts select RD applicants and offer to switch them to ED2 with a simple 'yes' email. Presumably that is a signal of interest. All the above stats are for all majors at JHU, except for Biomedical Engineering, which only accepts about 100 students, majority from ED1 and some from ED2.

This has nothing to do with ED1 deferrals, they have ED once, and JHU can't switch them to ED2.

Anonymous wrote:In my experience from a "Big3" or top private in DC, most top10 ED/SCEA deferrals that turned into acceptances were legacies or siblings or VIPs or all of the above. Very few unhooked kids were deferred ED and then accepted RD. If they were going to get accepted unhooked it was generally outright in ED/SCEA or outright in RD. Many kids (my own included) were deferred and then rejected in RD or deferred and then waitlisted in RD and then rejected. I.e. that ED deferral was a road to nowhere for the unhooked.

That said, I don't know anything about Hopkins specifically. My post is mainly about the Ivies.

JHU ended the legacy policy in 2014. All NCAA varsity sports are Div 3, except for Lacrosse, Div 1. Aside from the moderate to strong athletic hook (depending on sport), there are very few hooks at JHU. The school runs similar admission policy as Caltech and MIT, i.e. meritocracy (academic combined with outstanding athletics/music)

This fall '25 WashU matriculated a record 1,963 students, 110+ more than in fall '24, many were added from the waitlist. This was the summer where there was uncertainty about international students ability to get U.S. visas. Turns out it was not an issue at WashU. Even with 6% more freshmen joining, WashU housing and academic ran smoothly. There are plans to build new housing in South 40 or at the former Fontbonne campus to provide enough capacity to house ALL freshmen and sophomore on campus. Wouldn't be surprise if class of '26 size will be at or bigger than class of '25

WashU accepts deferrals from ED. Almost 2/3 of admits are from the ED round.

In 2023 JHU acceptance rate ~20% for ED1, ~10$ for ED2 and ~5% for RD. That has changed in the last 2 years, with 2023 acceptance rate for combined ED1 and ED2 at 10.5% and RD at 4.2%. Consider that about 800 are accepted in ED1 & ED2, and about 2,500 in RD. This means the ED2 still provide a significant advantage compared to RD. Around early Jan, after the deadline for ED2 and RD, JHU typically contacts select RD applicants and offer to switch them to ED2 with a simple 'yes' email. Presumably that is a signal of interest. All the above stats are for all majors at JHU, except for Biomedical Engineering, which only accepts about 100 students, majority from ED1 and some from ED2.

Deferral is hard, not the news anyone is hoping for. But it confirms competitiveness, and lead to greater RD options next year.

Anonymous wrote:We are in a similar boat. DD got deferred from. WUSTL yesterday. She didn’t take it nearly as well as your DS, but she will move on to ED2 her second choice school, which she loved almost as much as WUSTL.

Similar boat here, too.

Likely not going to ED2 anywhere and focus on the great opportunities they applied to EA and a few RD.

Anonymous wrote:JHU definitely accepts some deferrals RD. They are not like Georgetown, which defers all kids not accepted EA. JHU rejects a good number of ED applicants.

It may be true that JHU deferral is not a soft reject. Nonetheless admit rate for the deferral pool is comparable to RD pool (4-5%), maybe a little bit higher (5-6%?) but that's it. Focus on elsewhere. Detach.

First off, sorry for the result. No matter how much everyone understands the realities of very low acceptance rates and prepares for the disappointment it is still really hard.
I think he should put in the LOCI, probably would regret not trying, but then put it out of mind and focus on other possibilities.

JHU definitely accepts some deferrals RD. They are not like Georgetown, which defers all kids not accepted EA. JHU rejects a good number of ED applicants.