Anonymous
12/15/2025 20:39
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Nurse here. Non surgical treatments like Morpheus, Ulthera, Sofwave can help if the skin laxity is mild/ moderate. CO2 or Erbium lasers can help as well. Fillers on the cheeks (tastefully done and in moderation) can sometimes help in conjunction with the former treatments. Note that all these non surgical treatments are heavily provider dependent. Many will claim they don't work because they may have had them performed with a provider who is not well experienced in them.
For more moderate/ severe laxity, the solution would be a deep plane facelift.
My advice would be to go to a plastic surgeon who owns a medspa or employs nurses who provide non surgical treatment.
You've probably heard the expression "to a hammer, everything is a nail" . If you go to a derm/ medspa, they will tend to recommend non surgical treatments even if they won't provide you with the best solution because that is all they can provide. If you go to a plastic surgeon who does not do anything non surgical, they might be too quick to recommend surgery.
Hope this helps.
very helpful. Any recommendations for such practices in/around locations from McLean to Reston areas?
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Anonymous
12/15/2025 20:25
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
Wrong. It means taking care of yourself, including and up to nutrition, exercise, skincare, and possibly lasers. It does not include fillers or surgery.
Arbitrary line. I am not pro- 'laser/surgery/filler face' - have actually never done any of it/not sure I would, but there is nothing graceful about not taking every opportunity to look/act/feel better than you currently do.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 20:56
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
I don’t mind my marionette lines, but my collapsing jawline is just further emphasizing my already pointy chin and big nose. My side profile is going from not great to awful. I left those features as nature intended, but will not hesitate to get a lower mini lift when hair styling can’t hide it anymore. And hooray for bob cuts.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 19:13
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Have you looked at Brigitte Bardot today?
Yes, she's 91 years old and looks like what you would imagine a 91 year old would look like. Do you seriously think that once you make it to 75+ that you'll be fooling anyone into thinking you are significantly younger because of fillers/lasers/botox?
Deep plane, baby! Game changer.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 16:30
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Have you looked at Brigitte Bardot today?
Yes, she's 91 years old and looks like what you would imagine a 91 year old would look like. Do you seriously think that once you make it to 75+ that you'll be fooling anyone into thinking you are significantly younger because of fillers/lasers/botox?
Anonymous
12/10/2025 15:51
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
What about the reverse--sinking and hollowing? I am one of those people whose face is getting thinner/more hollow, same with my neck and collarbones, as I get older.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 15:42
Subject: Re:jowls and marionette lines
ugh, I hate these discussions about aging "gracefully". Everyone draws the line differently and arguing about it is pointless.
For example, I know a lot of people who go on and on about how Botox, fillers etc are bad and they insist that aging naturally is somehow superior. They all get really quiet when you bring up cosmetic dentistry though. Yes, capping that grey tooth counts as a cosmetic procedure, Jennifer!
For example, I know a lot of people who go on and on about how Botox, fillers etc are bad and they insist that aging naturally is somehow superior. They all get really quiet when you bring up cosmetic dentistry though. Yes, capping that grey tooth counts as a cosmetic procedure, Jennifer!
Anonymous
12/10/2025 15:13
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Nurse here. Non surgical treatments like Morpheus, Ulthera, Sofwave can help if the skin laxity is mild/ moderate. CO2 or Erbium lasers can help as well. Fillers on the cheeks (tastefully done and in moderation) can sometimes help in conjunction with the former treatments. Note that all these non surgical treatments are heavily provider dependent. Many will claim they don't work because they may have had them performed with a provider who is not well experienced in them.
For more moderate/ severe laxity, the solution would be a deep plane facelift.
My advice would be to go to a plastic surgeon who owns a medspa or employs nurses who provide non surgical treatment.
You've probably heard the expression "to a hammer, everything is a nail" . If you go to a derm/ medspa, they will tend to recommend non surgical treatments even if they won't provide you with the best solution because that is all they can provide. If you go to a plastic surgeon who does not do anything non surgical, they might be too quick to recommend surgery.
Hope this helps.
very helpful. Any recommendations for such practices in/around locations from McLean to Reston areas?
Anonymous
12/10/2025 15:02
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Have you looked at Brigitte Bardot today?
Anonymous
12/10/2025 14:32
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Not true. Older women are invisible.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 14:23
Subject: Re:jowls and marionette lines
I did Sculptra and saw improvements in jowls and marionette lines.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 14:20
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
Wrong. It means taking care of yourself, including and up to nutrition, exercise, skincare, and possibly lasers. It does not include fillers or surgery.
So to age naturally, lasers are OK, but fillers are not? Who comes up with these rules?
DP but I don't think it would include lasers or any intervention from a Dr or nurse.
Anonymous
12/10/2025 14:08
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
Wrong. It means taking care of yourself, including and up to nutrition, exercise, skincare, and possibly lasers. It does not include fillers or surgery.
So to age naturally, lasers are OK, but fillers are not? Who comes up with these rules?
Anonymous
12/10/2025 12:39
Subject: jowls and marionette lines
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Why not age gracefully? It is nature’s way. And, people respect women more as they age. There are some upsides.
Gracefully means with procedures and interventions.
Just doing nothing is aging naturally, not gracefully.
No, it doesn't. Gracefully means naturally and embracing the change.