Anonymous
12/15/2025 12:36
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:APS always screws South Arlington. Probably Someone is mad that the money is going to Arlington Tech instead of Taylor and bent the ears of the Board.
how does this screw S Arlington?
Anonymous
12/15/2025 11:30
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
But...why does what they're doing push AT toward votech (and not college prep).
Or maybe it’s pushing the other options closer to career prep?
I don’t think it’s necessarily doing either of those things, but it’s not very clear what exactly they are doing and that is a problem considering that offers will go out in January and students need to pick their classes. In the meeting they said they would not even finalize anything until at least February.
They said it was not about needing to fill seats or budget. I don’t know if that is true.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 10:58
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
But...why does what they're doing push AT toward votech (and not college prep).
Or maybe its pushing the other options closer to career prep?
Anonymous
12/15/2025 10:43
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
But...why does what they're doing push AT toward votech (and not college prep).
Anonymous
12/15/2025 10:09
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
I’ve said many times they are not getting AT to the 1000+ mark. Neighborhoods schools are screwed too with overcrowding.
What does it mean then that AT doesn't admit all of the students that apply? Is it that there was not capacity or that those students didn't make the cut? I'm watching as a parent of a middle school student who is very interested, but not going to 9th grade next year. AT seems like a really good fit.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 09:42
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:APS always screws South Arlington. Probably Someone is mad that the money is going to Arlington Tech instead of Taylor and bent the ears of the Board.
Why don't they just close Taylor? It's in really bad shape, there's no money to fix it, and we have too much capacity anyways.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 09:08
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
I’ve said many times they are not getting AT to the 1000+ mark. Neighborhoods schools are screwed too with overcrowding.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 08:15
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
APS has done a horrible job with communication and bringing up these proposed changes at the last minute. Not a good time for uncertainty with students and parents in the midst of making high school choices for 9th grade. Arlington Tech also needs to grow its 9th grade class substantially with the increased capacity of the new building.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 07:42
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Why? (Parent of incoming 9th grader interested in tech who still doesn’t understand what this all means).
Anonymous
12/15/2025 07:25
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
APS always screws South Arlington. Probably Someone is mad that the money is going to Arlington Tech instead of Taylor and bent the ears of the Board.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 07:08
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:I do think that these changes with two separate degree pathways is going into negatively harm the reputation. We are a family that applied to TJ and Arlington tech for next year and I was really leaning towards Arlington Tech, but I’m not interested in my kid being the first class of a new model that they haven’t even thought out all the details of. I also have concerns about being in the same building with kids who removed from traditional school for mental health or violence issues.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
The Langston Program has been successful over the many decades precisely due to its small building and small size. Many of those graduates have gone on to college and productive careers despite challenges in adolescence. Why mess with something that has worked.
Anonymous
12/15/2025 06:55
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
I do think that these changes with two separate degree pathways is going into negatively harm the reputation. We are a family that applied to TJ and Arlington tech for next year and I was really leaning towards Arlington Tech, but I’m not interested in my kid being the first class of a new model that they haven’t even thought out all the details of. I also have concerns about being in the same building with kids who removed from traditional school for mental health or violence issues.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Anonymous
12/15/2025 01:13
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
This definitely push Arlington Tech towards the vocational tech perception
Anonymous
12/12/2025 15:34
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
They have been sharing with other programs that’s not the problem. The issue is that last night there was a presentation that they are planning to split the pathways into two separate schools with separate principals in the same building and limit access to the CTE classes for Arlington tech students. It would also relocate the alternative high school programs that are small supportive environments into the larger school. This is not a change that either community wants.
Aren't they already co-located?
No, Langston/new directions is in a separate building. Career center, PEP, the Academy and teen parenting is co-located with tech
Anonymous
12/12/2025 15:31
Subject: Proposed Changes to Grace Hopper Center
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Can someone explain what this change would mean for Tech students?
They could not really explain this last night, or the rationale for the change.
I got the email and was having a hard time figuring out what they were talking. Worried that I was not alone in that.
Apart from programmatic changes, this consolidation appears to be cost driven. Although APS said they wouldn't mothball current school sites, the plan would entail the relocation of the Langston Program out of Langston. Maybe the plan is to use Langston as a swing space?
Last night Kim graves said it was not budget driven
It almost sounds as if the concern is that Arlington Tech would have to share the new space with other programs? Wasn't that always the case? The ACC has a ton of programs in it, and some programs were in the old Human Services building that was where the Hopper Center is. Not surprised APS would bring back programs they moved elsewhere to free up space. Am I missing the point?
They could've made it that simple, but the whole rebranding complicates simple moves like that. Also there are lingering questions on access to the career center courses.
I got the feeling sometimes that the ulterior motive by some who advocated for Arlington Tech and the expanded building was to create a STEM focused HB Woodlawn in that neighborhood, and the idea that the space would be shared with "alternative" programs lessens the appeal? I know people who really like the Langston program. I feel like before Arl Tech, it was in the Career Center...
They have been sharing with other programs that’s not the problem. The issue is that last night there was a presentation that they are planning to split the pathways into two separate schools with separate principals in the same building and limit access to the CTE classes for Arlington tech students. It would also relocate the alternative high school programs that are small supportive environments into the larger school. This is not a change that either community wants.
Aren't they already co-located?