Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 21:15     Subject: Re:Likeky dementia not foul play
But even if they go lost, what killed this couple? In Texas it seems unlikely they froze in their car. They weren't there long enough to starve. How did they die?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:40     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:This is so incredibly sad. They found the elderly man in his submerged car in Lorton. My heart is breaking for this family:

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2025/12/missing-78-year-old-fairfax-county-man-found-dead-inside-submerged-car/


It’s sad, he had a good long life however
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:37     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At this point doesn’t everyone have some sort of location tracking on their car or cell phone? I would drop an air tag in my parents car, if nothing else.


Last Christmas my mom made a stop in Woodbridge before coming here. She somehow turned her phone onto airplane mode so I couldn’t call or track her. 3 hours later she pulled over in DC. She’d be driving back and further over the bridges. Someone helped her turn her phone back on. She still didn’t call me but I was stalking her so I saw it cone back in. DH had to drive me to go get her. I was terrified. Was about to post a silver alert. She doesn’t even think she has dementia btw.


Yes, just like all these people who drive like they are 30 and are in hard denial they aren’t 30 anymore. I see it too often! People who are 80 think they are still sooooo competent
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:35     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I have zero intention of ever getting in a driverless car. I’m not elderly either. I’ll hire a car service or stay home. My mom drove until she died at 86. No wrecks or accidents her whole life. The last 15 years she no longer drove at night and short distances on non-interstate roads.


Atlanta has the Waymo and it’s pretty awesome. You’re lucky your mom didn’t have any issues with her driving. So many elderly do.


I hate it when people are like “but my grandma!” Well she is an exception which only proves the rule
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:34     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:I have zero intention of ever getting in a driverless car. I’m not elderly either. I’ll hire a car service or stay home. My mom drove until she died at 86. No wrecks or accidents her whole life. The last 15 years she no longer drove at night and short distances on non-interstate roads.


You are elderly in spirit
Car service isn’t very commonly used, not sure why, probably expensive.
Waymo should get cheaper and cheaper as the years go by just like it happened with cell phones etc.
there are also options to live walking distance to grocery stores but ho will you get the dr?
It’s still some sort of cab service
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:29     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:I’m curious how they ran out of gas. They got gas to drive to the dinner. Sad.


Got gas, drove, didn’t realize they were low on gas (dementia), ran out of gas. Not sure what’s so complicated here?
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 20:23     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
This is so incredibly sad. They found the elderly man in his submerged car in Lorton. My heart is breaking for this family:

https://wtop.com/fairfax-county/2025/12/missing-78-year-old-fairfax-county-man-found-dead-inside-submerged-car/
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 07:48     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:At this point doesn’t everyone have some sort of location tracking on their car or cell phone? I would drop an air tag in my parents car, if nothing else.


Last Christmas my mom made a stop in Woodbridge before coming here. She somehow turned her phone onto airplane mode so I couldn’t call or track her. 3 hours later she pulled over in DC. She’d be driving back and further over the bridges. Someone helped her turn her phone back on. She still didn’t call me but I was stalking her so I saw it cone back in. DH had to drive me to go get her. I was terrified. Was about to post a silver alert. She doesn’t even think she has dementia btw.


Gosh this is scarily common isn't it. My elderly dad won't use a smart phone and won't ask for directions.

Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 07:39     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:I have zero intention of ever getting in a driverless car. I’m not elderly either. I’ll hire a car service or stay home. My mom drove until she died at 86. No wrecks or accidents her whole life. The last 15 years she no longer drove at night and short distances on non-interstate roads.


Why? The data is already incredible in terms of how much better drivers Waymo is vs humans. Accident rate is 85% less than human drivers (adjusted for number of trips) and 92% less for accidents with injury.

I can’t wait for the day when I just get in the back of a driverless car and tell it where to go.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 07:21     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:At this point doesn’t everyone have some sort of location tracking on their car or cell phone? I would drop an air tag in my parents car, if nothing else.


Last Christmas my mom made a stop in Woodbridge before coming here. She somehow turned her phone onto airplane mode so I couldn’t call or track her. 3 hours later she pulled over in DC. She’d be driving back and further over the bridges. Someone helped her turn her phone back on. She still didn’t call me but I was stalking her so I saw it cone back in. DH had to drive me to go get her. I was terrified. Was about to post a silver alert. She doesn’t even think she has dementia btw.
Anonymous
Post 12/08/2025 06:26     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:I have zero intention of ever getting in a driverless car. I’m not elderly either. I’ll hire a car service or stay home. My mom drove until she died at 86. No wrecks or accidents her whole life. The last 15 years she no longer drove at night and short distances on non-interstate roads.


Atlanta has the Waymo and it’s pretty awesome. You’re lucky your mom didn’t have any issues with her driving. So many elderly do.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2025 23:36     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
I have zero intention of ever getting in a driverless car. I’m not elderly either. I’ll hire a car service or stay home. My mom drove until she died at 86. No wrecks or accidents her whole life. The last 15 years she no longer drove at night and short distances on non-interstate roads.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2025 23:31     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
I’m curious how they ran out of gas. They got gas to drive to the dinner. Sad.
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2025 23:05     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No one over 80 should be driving. Hopefully driverless cars will help this happen. Also nobody under 18.


Driverless cars will require a lot of maintenance for the censors along with a person monitoring as it drives. It might give them a few more years of independence, but beyond that they won't be able to handle it.


I meant more like Waymo, when you call a cab, essentially
Anonymous
Post 12/07/2025 21:09     Subject: Likeky dementia not foul play
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
There needs to be a required test starting at 75. Depending on how you do, you don't have to come back until 78. Once they are 78, every year! Once you are 90 if you insist on driving-test every 6 months. By 80 so many people fall apart. I am SURE they could find or conduct research to support this.


I agree with you, but I think it should start even younger and more frequent. Required testing at 65, with re-tests every other year till 75. Then every year after that.

This is unfortunate but I disagree. If the actuarial numbers indicated old folks posed more of a driving hazard than other populations, their insurance rates would be higher and they are not.


An actuary here. The data indicates that the elderly have relatively high number of accidents per mile driven, but considering that they are usually not driving too far and a lot of it on the local roads at lower speeds, the total accidents/damages are lower than for the younger people.