Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, they punish entire grade in the cafeteria by making them sit in assigned seats because of a few disruptive kids who are "talking to loud...at lunchtime"

It’s a safety issue. One administrator and one security guard try to monitor 300+ tweens and teens. When several kids are screaming for no reason, you can’t hear the one calling for help.

I’ve volunteered at my DD’s school and have seen this in action.

Adults in a school are severely outnumbered. When even a mere 10-15% of a group is being loud and disorderly, the situation descends into chaos quickly and the adults can’t adequately address it.

So yes, I understand why whole-group consequences happen. Is it unfortunate? Yes. Is it necessary? Seems to be, especially in the moment so adults can calm the situation down and address the ringleaders later.

And I remember whole-group consequences from my childhood, too. I had to write sentences (x100, x200) when my class got too loud. I had to write apology letters to substitutes. I was the quiet, respectful kid, so I was never the cause. I’m no worse off for it now, and I learned that the community around me does impact me, whether for better or worse.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Yep, they punish entire grade in the cafeteria by making them sit in assigned seats because of a few disruptive kids who are "talking to loud...at lunchtime"

It’s a safety issue. One administrator and one security guard try to monitor 300+ tweens and teens. When several kids are screaming for no reason, you can’t hear the one calling for help.

Anonymous wrote:Yep, they punish entire grade in the cafeteria by making them sit in assigned seats because of a few disruptive kids who are "talking to loud...at lunchtime"

Anonymous wrote:Is it NB?
About 8 years ago there was a whole thing at NB with misbehavior on cafeteria. They took away a bunch of the chairs and what happened was all the bad kids continued to take the chairs and the good kids had to eat their lunch sitting on the floor (gross). It was totally pointless and the disruptive kids got worse—the whole thing blew up with the principal losing her temper and a bunch of kids recording her berating all the kids. She ended up learning her lesson and resetting the tone for the rest of her tenure but for me it just sort of proved that this sort of collective punishment rarely ends up well because it usually just ends up punishing the kids who weren’t doing anything wrong …. You lose the support of the community and then you are sunk.

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Anonymous wrote:At one middle school they had one class (not the entire grade) of students write an apology letter to a substitute teacher. Not ALL the students were misbehaving. Yet all the students in the class had to write the letter. Admin knows some students' behavior but what did they do? Students supposedly go to office. Then what? Get sent back to the class? What are the counselors doing?? They don't come to the class. SO F cking SICK of it.

We had a MS teacher pull kids from lunch and call a bunch of parents on the phone and brought some of the parents into the school for a meeting because kids were talking in class. Talking. Send me an email, fine. But don't call me during the work day and make my kid miss lunch for talking. Just be normal and send them to the principal's office.

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Anonymous wrote:Email reads..." In response to recent inappropriate behaviors and in an effort to strengthen positive peer connections, we have made a few brief changes to our lunch protocol.
Students will now:
Sit with their homeroom classmates at assigned tables.
Be called by table to access lunch and snacks.
Refrain from using Chromebooks during lunch. Instead, we encourage students to bring simple tabletop games (Uno, Old Maid, cards, etc.) to promote direct engagement and positive interactions.
Go outside if time and weather permit, once their table area is cleared of trash and recyclables.
These changes are temporary, and we will monitor student conduct closely. Our goal is to restore free seating and Chromebook use once we see consistent positive behaviors."

So everyone is punished for whatever behavior occurred thst is not mentioned.

Where is the punishment?

My 6th grader can't go to McDonald's for lunch? Unfair collective punishment!!!

Anonymous wrote:Email reads..." In response to recent inappropriate behaviors and in an effort to strengthen positive peer connections, we have made a few brief changes to our lunch protocol.
Students will now:
Sit with their homeroom classmates at assigned tables.
Be called by table to access lunch and snacks.
Refrain from using Chromebooks during lunch. Instead, we encourage students to bring simple tabletop games (Uno, Old Maid, cards, etc.) to promote direct engagement and positive interactions.
Go outside if time and weather permit, once their table area is cleared of trash and recyclables.
These changes are temporary, and we will monitor student conduct closely. Our goal is to restore free seating and Chromebook use once we see consistent positive behaviors."

So everyone is punished for whatever behavior occurred thst is not mentioned.

Anonymous wrote:At one middle school they had one class (not the entire grade) of students write an apology letter to a substitute teacher. Not ALL the students were misbehaving. Yet all the students in the class had to write the letter. Admin knows some students' behavior but what did they do? Students supposedly go to office. Then what? Get sent back to the class? What are the counselors doing?? They don't come to the class. SO F cking SICK of it.

Anonymous wrote:At one middle school they had one class (not the entire grade) of students write an apology letter to a substitute teacher. Not ALL the students were misbehaving. Yet all the students in the class had to write the letter. Admin knows some students' behavior but what did they do? Students supposedly go to office. Then what? Get sent back to the class? What are the counselors doing?? They don't come to the class. SO F cking SICK of it.