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Anonymous wrote:I hope the younger kids parents now understand why those older kids parents want to stay, in order to stay far away from those problematic kids from those problematic school.

HUH?

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. Yes, absolutely parents need to provide consequences too. I see two different types of parents that let their kids get away with horrible behavior:
1. The parents who are obsessed with gentle parenting/permissive parenting and let their kids get away with all sorts of bad behavior and just make up excuses (or worse, make up diagnoses) for them.
2. The parents who think their children are model students and deny that they would ever misbehave, therefore their kids get away with mouthing off, bullying, sometimes even destruction of property because their child is perfect and would never behave that way.

NP. There's a third type and it's worse than the other two. It's the parents who do nothing. No expectations about behavior at home, blocking the school's phone number, ignoring teacher messages or emails, zero encouragement to do well academically. These are the kids who are basically feral because their parents have invested no time or energy in modeling the right kind of behavior for school or even life in general. Things usually get out of hand by middle school because hormones are in the mix and some have started experimenting with drugs and/or alcohol.

Right, and those kids are the reason we ALSO need school-based consequences. Because there aren't any at home. Bring back suspensions and detentions.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if horseplay includes the boys on my son’s bus terrorizing girls with “nudify” apps. It has gotten so bad that the girls are now getting numb to it. The bus driver I chatted with said there is nothing they can do because there is only audio recording on bus and it really only captures audio right by front. Son reported it to school counselor early in the year and was told if it does not involve him to stay out of it.

Anonymous wrote:I wonder if horseplay includes the boys on my son’s bus terrorizing girls with “nudify” apps. It has gotten so bad that the girls are now getting numb to it. The bus driver I chatted with said there is nothing they can do because there is only audio recording on bus and it really only captures audio right by front. Son reported it to school counselor early in the year and was told if it does not involve him to stay out of it.

Anonymous wrote:There is for sure drug issue at Carson, the drug issue can only get worse when those kids are in HS.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. Yes, absolutely parents need to provide consequences too. I see two different types of parents that let their kids get away with horrible behavior:
1. The parents who are obsessed with gentle parenting/permissive parenting and let their kids get away with all sorts of bad behavior and just make up excuses (or worse, make up diagnoses) for them.
2. The parents who think their children are model students and deny that they would ever misbehave, therefore their kids get away with mouthing off, bullying, sometimes even destruction of property because their child is perfect and would never behave that way.

NP. There's a third type and it's worse than the other two. It's the parents who do nothing. No expectations about behavior at home, blocking the school's phone number, ignoring teacher messages or emails, zero encouragement to do well academically. These are the kids who are basically feral because their parents have invested no time or energy in modeling the right kind of behavior for school or even life in general. Things usually get out of hand by middle school because hormones are in the mix and some have started experimenting with drugs and/or alcohol.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. Yes, absolutely parents need to provide consequences too. I see two different types of parents that let their kids get away with horrible behavior:
1. The parents who are obsessed with gentle parenting/permissive parenting and let their kids get away with all sorts of bad behavior and just make up excuses (or worse, make up diagnoses) for them.
2. The parents who think their children are model students and deny that they would ever misbehave, therefore their kids get away with mouthing off, bullying, sometimes even destruction of property because their child is perfect and would never behave that way.

Anonymous wrote:I hope the younger kids parents now understand why those older kids parents want to stay, in order to stay far away from those problematic kids from those problematic school.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.

I'm not making excuses for anyone. Yes, absolutely parents need to provide consequences too. I see two different types of parents that let their kids get away with horrible behavior:
1. The parents who are obsessed with gentle parenting/permissive parenting and let their kids get away with all sorts of bad behavior and just make up excuses (or worse, make up diagnoses) for them.
2. The parents who think their children are model students and deny that they would ever misbehave, therefore their kids get away with mouthing off, bullying, sometimes even destruction of property because their child is perfect and would never behave that way.

Anonymous wrote:It's a problem across lots of middle schools. It's due to permissive parenting, making excuses for inappropriate behavior ("he's just a kid!"), refusal to hold kids accountable, and coddling.

There is no reason so many middle schools have had to send communication like this. Parents need to step up and actually parent. I am flabbergasted by what I see other parents allow from their children. It's appalling.

My kids try stuff, of course, but my husband and I hold them accountable and give consequences for ill-mannered behavior. I feel as though we are in the minority as parents.

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Anonymous wrote:I think he is just addressing the atmosphere and would appreciate some parental reinforcement. I also think that the operative word and reason for the letter might be "horseplay."

When it is just a handful of kids acting out, it should have been handled with those kids. But, I've no kids there so this is all speculation. But, middle school kids are not known for being docile.

It's not just a "handful" of kids. It's become an epidemic, not just at Carson, and it needs to stop.

You know what would be helpful? CONSEQUENCES. If kids got real detentions and real suspensions again, this would stop.

Consequences need to BEGIN AT HOME and should continue at school. Stop making excuses for kids' ill-mannered behavior and stop pawning off parenting to the schools.