Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 07:29     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:Why is UChicago so low? I thought they love high SAT scores


This is based off of psat and not sat
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 06:43     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:list isn't accurate


OP probably used ChatGPT.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 02:44     Subject: Re:Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

No, National Merit Scholars aren’t Finalists who got money from “somewhere.” National Merit Scholars are only the ones who receive scholarships directly from the NMSF itself. Receiving a scholarship from a university doesn’t make a Finalist a Scholar.


Just not true. There are 3 ways to be a scholar. One is from the NMSF itself. One is from a corporate sponsor--which usually requires the student has a parent or stepparent who is an employee. One is by getting a scholarship from the college itself. https://www.nationalmerit.org/s/1758/interior.aspx?sid=1758&gid=2&pgid=396#college
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 02:37     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:This list is far from a good measure of student quality because it is extremely hard to become NMSFs in states such as NJ, MA, MD, VA, and CA. Excellent students who missed the cut there can *EASILY* become NMSFs in states like NM, OK, MS, and WV. These non-NMSFs at t20s tend to be academically much stronger than a lot of the NMSFs at Alabama and Tulsa.


Except the majority of students are from these highly competitive states.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 02:31     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

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Anonymous wrote:Agreed Rice is very underrated, people like to discount it because it takes such a heavy portion of its class from Texas, but Stanford does the same from California - both just happen to be massive states


Rice sounds great but I just couldn't do the red state thing.


It's interesting that so many Northern kids are flocking to the South for college now though

What about it is interesting? It just isn’t true.
Anonymous
Post 12/01/2025 02:25     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed Rice is very underrated, people like to discount it because it takes such a heavy portion of its class from Texas, but Stanford does the same from California - both just happen to be massive states


Rice sounds great but I just couldn't do the red state thing.


It's interesting that so many Northern kids are flocking to the South for college now though


Precisely not the National Merit Scholars. The ones who prioritize the sun and partying.


Well, Duke and Rice are both in top 10 for merit scholar enrollment, so you’re kind of wrong.


Ok yes Duke gets the top students from all around the country but 60-70% of Rice’s national merit scholars are likely from Texas, with very few from the North


+1 Rice is very Texas-centric, which makes sense because Texas is huge
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:36     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:Remember that National Merit Scholars are National Merit Finalists who got money from somewhere. So you need to adjust for schools like Princeton, where only a few of their NMFs have become NMS by getting money from a corporate sponsor, vs. say the University of Alabama, where every NMF admitted becomes NMS because the college hands them out a scholarship.

No, National Merit Scholars aren’t Finalists who got money from “somewhere.” National Merit Scholars are only the ones who receive scholarships directly from the NMSF itself. Receiving a scholarship from a university doesn’t make a Finalist a Scholar.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:30     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed Rice is very underrated, people like to discount it because it takes such a heavy portion of its class from Texas, but Stanford does the same from California - both just happen to be massive states


Rice sounds great but I just couldn't do the red state thing.


It's interesting that so many Northern kids are flocking to the South for college now though


Precisely not the National Merit Scholars. The ones who prioritize the sun and partying.


Well, Duke and Rice are both in top 10 for merit scholar enrollment, so you’re kind of wrong.


Ok yes Duke gets the top students from all around the country but 60-70% of Rice’s national merit scholars are likely from Texas, with very few from the North
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:23     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

This list is far from a good measure of student quality because it is extremely hard to become NMSFs in states such as NJ, MA, MD, VA, and CA. Excellent students who missed the cut there can *EASILY* become NMSFs in states like NM, OK, MS, and WV. These non-NMSFs at t20s tend to be academically much stronger than a lot of the NMSFs at Alabama and Tulsa.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:20     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is UChicago so low? I thought they love high SAT scores
They probably admit a lot from competitive states


Perhaps those are the kids they wish for but tend to lose out on in a head-to-head against HYPMS Penn Duke Rice Brown Hopkins?


Chicago is test optional.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:17     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Why is UChicago so low? I thought they love high SAT scores
They probably admit a lot from competitive states


Perhaps those are the kids they wish for but tend to lose out on in a head-to-head against HYPMS Penn Duke Rice Brown Hopkins?
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:11     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Agreed Rice is very underrated, people like to discount it because it takes such a heavy portion of its class from Texas, but Stanford does the same from California - both just happen to be massive states


Rice sounds great but I just couldn't do the red state thing.


Yes, it’s so much better to be in a state where there are a lot of open-minded people.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 22:01     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Who cares. I’d rather find some kids that are smart and want to make the world better than students in search of an institution/diploma that’s going to supposedly yield a lifetime of prestige. Life is what you do with it, not how many badges you earn.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 21:58     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:
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Anonymous wrote:Agreed Rice is very underrated, people like to discount it because it takes such a heavy portion of its class from Texas, but Stanford does the same from California - both just happen to be massive states


Rice sounds great but I just couldn't do the red state thing.


It's interesting that so many Northern kids are flocking to the South for college now though


Precisely not the National Merit Scholars. The ones who prioritize the sun and partying.


Well, Duke and Rice are both in top 10 for merit scholar enrollment, so you’re kind of wrong.
Anonymous
Post 11/30/2025 21:57     Subject: Schools that Enroll the Most National Merit Scholars

Anonymous wrote:Why is UChicago so low? I thought they love high SAT scores
They probably admit a lot from competitive states