Anonymous wrote:Did not see this coming.
I soon expect my DS to be accepted into 2 T15 schools, and prior to starting applications, these were his goals.
Partly from interest at this point in his life, partly to evaluate campus vibes, this also ended up being the college football season he paid attention to and watched many games. On a whim, he applied to Mizzou, UGA and Auburn. He's been accepted into Auburn and Mizzou.
Mizzou is love bombing him. Phone calls from the admissions office to check in, automail, handwritten letters from local alumni, invitations for local lunch and meetups, etc. Every day there's a letter or package in the mailbox from Mizzou.
While he awaits his target schools decisions we see it's affected his perspective. What went from "Mizzou looks like a fun place" is being replaced with "I would be the top student in their EE program" and "you could save tuition for my grad school".
We have no qualms about where he attends, but worry the college loving you back trope is negatively affecting his perception. We armed ourselves mentally for rejections, but not for safety schools going hard on marketing.
Anyone else navigating this? We don't have problems if he decided to attend Mizzou, but don't want love fog to be the reason.
If he is truly a top student, he will NOT need grad school or he will need phD, which is free (tuition and fees free plus a generous living stipend of 45-55k for most T20 Engineering phDs, and ability to apply for additional funding).
Masters in Engineering are never needed from true top schools, and certainly not for top students. A BSE will get top jobs from top schools.
PhD is for those who want access to jobs not available with BSE: research and development roles in private industry labs, national labs, more. phD programs accept US students directly from undergrad for stem, especially engineering phd, and especially from top undergraduate E programs (Top-7 publics for Engineering or Top-20 privates). Can Mizzou provide access to top jobs that Berkeley/ivy/GT/MIT kids get without the masters? Does Mizzou send E students directly to phD or do very few get in and have to pay for masters first?
Look at summer opportunities too. Almost every Engineering kid gets paid internships at top undergrad programs, many after sophomore year. At top industry or research internships that we have seen, about 2/3 of students are from Top-20 privates/Top7 publics, with an outsized portion from ivy+/MIT/CMU/UCB. 1/3 are from everywhere else. Summer resume building is key for getting the best job with a BSE as well as landing T20 phD programs .