Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
THIS. All of it.
Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:For comparison’s sake, how many people did Trump kill by cutting off USAID food assistance?
Oh, you mean using USAID to fund color revolutions in foreign countries?
No, I mean the hundreds of thousands of deaths from cutting off food to starving people. I’m sorry the foreign actors feeding you garbage on X.com told you it was “color revolutions” or whatever nonsense you imagine. It was actually food. For children. Children who starved to death.
NP. This is a thread about grievous bodily harm inflicted on an American citizen by another American citizen in the United States. Why are you bringing up the theoretical impact of USAID cuts to noncitizens outside of the United States? Go post your grievances in another thread.
Anonymous wrote:Oh look. Trump has a bad day and suddenly we get to hear another distracting story about a sCaAAary criminal.
Anonymous wrote:Oh look. Trump has a bad day and suddenly we get to hear another distracting story about a sCaAAary criminal.
Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
You can't force someone into treatment in this country. And you can't always predict who will commit a violent crime. Many mentally ill homeless are crime victims because the violent ones often aren't prosecuted. Disability advocates fight tooth and nail for people to have the right to live on the streets even if they can't take care of themselves and are violent OR are repeated victims of violence. And what has happened in the last few years is that many cities have stopped criminalizing mental illness so it is just a revolving door.
Who suffers most are poor and working class people who have to take public transportation because so many violent mentally ill people are camped out on busses, subways, trains, etc. It is easy for upper class people who live in safe neighborhoods and have cars to say let's not commit or incarcerate violent offenders. Let's just help mentally ill people, let's just provided housing first. This ignores the fact that these people are way too mentally ill to understand they need help. And they are becoming even more messed up with all the drugs they using that it further fries their brains.
This individual never should have been on the streets;
FEBRUARY 2020 Lawrence Reed, 44, was charged two misdemeanor counts of battery despite attacking more. At 8:30 AM Reed was punching the women at “random,” and may have struck between five and 10 of them, police said. They had bloody noses and other facial injuries, Langford said. He was arrested for a similar incident in which he allegedly slapped a 42-year-old man in the face at the Halsted CTA Blue Line platform Feb. 21, police said. He was also charged with a misdemeanor count of battery in that case. He was released on a recognizance bond, which is a release from jail that requires a defendant to sign a written promise to appear for court dates without having to post a cash or surety bond.
APRIL 2020 : A man has been charged with starting a fire at the Thompson Center Thursday minutes before Gov. J.B. Pritzker gave his daily COVID-19 news conference in the building. Lawrence Reed, 44, is charged with a felony count of aggravated arson knowing people were present, according to Chicago police. Reed poured an “unknown substance” on the glass of the building about 2:15 p.m. in the 100 block of West Lake Street and lit it, police said. A video shared on social media appears to show flames licking the outside of the Thompson Center.
Once someone is charged with arson, homeless shelters and many other agencies will NOT take the person.
DECEMBER 4, 2021 Charged with: Assault
DECEMBER 21, 2021 Battery
JUNE 2022 Battery - physical contact
Anonymous wrote:• May 2017: Driving while revoked/suspended (2nd offense).
• April 2018: Soliciting unlawful business.
• June 2018: Criminal trespass to real property.
• July 2018: Battery – make physical contact.
• April 2019: Driving on a revoked license.
• December 2019: Criminal damage to property under $500.
• February 2020: Battery –make physical contact; aggravated battery in a public place.
• April 2020: Aggravated arson / arson knowing a person was present.
• December 2021: Assault – simple; battery – cause bodily harm.
• June 2022: Battery – make physical contact.
• January 2024: Criminal damage to property under $500.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
I agree with not criminalizing mental illness but really do not care for the glib “help mentally ill people before they commit violent crimes.”
There’s an excellent chance this man was in some type of community mental health program for severe and chronic mental illness but the fact is the medications don’t always work and people often decline care even when it’s available (and actively promoted to them.)
These are complex issues and anyone in the field will tell you making statements like “just offer the mental health care so they don’t commit crimes” (or school shootings, or whatever) makes as much sense as saying “just offer primary care, so they dont die of cancer.” It’s just not how it works.
What is your suggestion then?
Step one is don’t act like psychiatrists have a magic wand to cure everyone with severe and devastating mental illness and the only issue is access. Since that’s not true having that be the primary talking point is obviously not a winning solution.
I'm pretty sure what psychiatrists do isn't considered a "cure". In most cases is just making people more obedient, often at the expense of other brain functions. Not saying it isn't appropriate, just it's not "curing" people.
Is this really something that is appropriate for a political forum, who thinks they have something to gain by politicizing this?
Personally, I live in Rockville, we have extensive "mental health" services, and I am going to move because I don't want to pay taxes for these things or to be around the mentally ill and developmentally challenged that it attracts. Why do all the low IQ people move to my neighborhood and bring down my schools MAP scores?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
how is Criminalizing mental illness not working? we decriminalized it and its a major issue
DP. It wasn’t decriminalized it was defunded. Hence why there are no insane asylums anymore.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
I agree with not criminalizing mental illness but really do not care for the glib “help mentally ill people before they commit violent crimes.”
There’s an excellent chance this man was in some type of community mental health program for severe and chronic mental illness but the fact is the medications don’t always work and people often decline care even when it’s available (and actively promoted to them.)
These are complex issues and anyone in the field will tell you making statements like “just offer the mental health care so they don’t commit crimes” (or school shootings, or whatever) makes as much sense as saying “just offer primary care, so they dont die of cancer.” It’s just not how it works.
What is your suggestion then?
Step one is don’t act like psychiatrists have a magic wand to cure everyone with severe and devastating mental illness and the only issue is access. Since that’s not true having that be the primary talking point is obviously not a winning solution.
Anonymous wrote: But the Mayor says they got the crime issue under control?
You have this and the 30 people shot during the tree lighting in the loop area. That is supposed to be the safest part of Chicago?
Maybe he should accept the federal help after all. It does not seem like he should be refusing anything at this point.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:It is because violent repeat offenders are not prosecuted and if they are it us too light of a sentence before they are released from jail.
There needs to be mandatory incarceration of mentally ill who are convicted or crimes it found not mentally competent.
Reed’s criminal record includes nearly 50 prior arrests since 2017, with past convictions for arson, aggravated battery, and assault.
Or...we could help people who are mentally ill before they commit violent crimes. Criminalizing mental illness is obviously not working. And neither is ignoring it. Also, why are there so many violent mentally ill people?
Figuring out how to punish and institutionalize people who commit crimes may make you feel better, but none of this actually prevents crime. I don't want to be someone's first victim either.
how is Criminalizing mental illness not working? we decriminalized it and its a major issue