Anonymous wrote:Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Michigan
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
USC

What’s missing?

Very few Duke kids go out 2-3x a week, not counting the first week or so of fall semester. 1 is typical, maybe 2. Vast majority are not greek. Duke is more social than some but not all of the ivies, but just like Ivy/chicago/stanford it is filled with super high achievers who do research, run clubs, have internships during the semester on campus or close. The do-it-all mentality and obsession with grades is much different than Duke in the early 90s(93 grad w a 24 grad kid).
The nephew at northwestern and it is per him more academic/intellectually focused on studies than Duke. To us as parents/grown siblings the students sound similar at NW and Duke

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Anonymous wrote:Duke, ND, and Vandy have nothing in common with Cornell. Would add Dartmouth on a much more isolated scale. For LACs add in Colgate, Holy Cross, and Richmond. No Greek life at ND and HC.

Agree! Cornell does not belong on this list. It's the consummate grinder school.

Dyson?

Anonymous wrote:Duke, ND, and Vandy have nothing in common with Cornell. Would add Dartmouth on a much more isolated scale. For LACs add in Colgate, Holy Cross, and Richmond. No Greek life at ND and HC.

Agree! Cornell does not belong on this list. It's the consummate grinder school.

Duke, ND, and Vandy have nothing in common with Cornell. Would add Dartmouth on a much more isolated scale. For LACs add in Colgate, Holy Cross, and Richmond. No Greek life at ND and HC.

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Val applying ED to Duke is not uncommon.

Duke isn’t really fun - Vandy is authentically fun. can’t go there and not enjoy ur 4 years in nashville - it’s basically impossible lol

Interesting that these are the schools that all of the kids are talking about.

greek life and/or "parties" have made a resurgence as a priority with all of the tiktoks and reels. kids don't want to grind for 4 more years. at least we are seeing this at our private.

Val applying ED to Duke is not uncommon.

Anonymous wrote:Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Michigan
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
USC

What’s missing?

No Greek life at ND.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the current list of fun, social, selective and smart T20s/30s?

Greek life good
Going out 2-3x/week good
At least 20-25% of class is socially oriented, outgoing, friendly
And with bars, darties, or sports etc.

What does 'going out' actually include in your head? With a friend, with few friends, ona date, with a group?

like what we saw in movies two decades ago. like party scene in 10 Things I Hate About You, but college version. doesnt matter if it's a house party or bar, as long as it's 70%+ white kids

It’s hard to believe that the kid of someone who would make such a weird, misplaced reference (and racist, to boot) could even get into a T20 school.

Anonymous wrote:once you have moms asking about this stuff, you've really lost the plot

ha ha ha....
imagine what kind of high school life

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Anonymous wrote:Duke
Northwestern. NO
Cornell NO
Michigan
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
USC

What’s missing?

Interesting social phenomenon at NU.
Asian kids all hang together. Indian kids same.
Greek life is mostly white (a sprinkle of Asian/indian here and there). Greek life is growing. More kids want to join.
Off campus parties at bars and clubs downtown.

My kid says NU is fun. Goes downtown 1-2 nights/week and Greek /off campus party 1-2 nights/week. Plenty social.
Boys have a tougher time with dirty rush in the fall and getting into parties. Assume it’s all fine after they pledge.

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Anonymous wrote:What’s the current list of fun, social, selective and smart T20s/30s?

Greek life good
Going out 2-3x/week good
At least 20-25% of class is socially oriented, outgoing, friendly
And with bars, darties, or sports etc.

What does 'going out' actually include in your head? With a friend, with few friends, ona date, with a group?

Colllege bars and parties

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Anonymous wrote:Duke
Northwestern
Cornell
Michigan
Notre Dame
Vanderbilt
USC

What’s missing?

Agree with this

Think it’s missing UVA. That’s it

Agree on Cornell.
Greek life there is big. And those 3 bars in collegetown.
Lots of Greek date parties and formals.

Cornell, Lehigh, Vandy

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Anonymous wrote:Dartmouth

Dartmouth with the caveat that there is very little to do socially but drink and do outdoorsy things. If neither is your passion then it can often feel isolated and boring. My junior frankly looks longingly at the social experience that a younger sibling is now having at a larger and less remote school.

Sums it up. Storrs pond good during warmer temp when most as students have already left for summer