Anonymous wrote:1350 psat in 11th is likely a 1380-1450 SAT. Aim for schools where that is close to average to find a good fit. A 1350 psat in 11th does not indicate they will be able to get above 1500 on the SAT, and if they do it is likely a fluke. Their true talent level is 93-96th%ile, not 98-99th. T20 are not going to be a good fit.

PSAT 11 = 1270
SAT = 1550 less than a year later

Now at a T20, doing great.

Conclusion: the low PSAT was the fluke not the SAT.

You can get to 1500 + if you have a 1350 on PSAT. Study with a tutor. Happened with my son in 3 months.

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Anonymous wrote:My kids took the SAT in August and the PSAT (11th grade) in October.

Kid 1: 1560 SAT, 1450 PSAT
Kid 2: 1540 SAT, 1470 PSAT

Mine got 1520 SAT, 1490 PSAT both October
Does that mean there’s still room for improvement on the SAT? We’re thinking not taking it again.

NP: my DC got exactly same scores in Oct. First time. watching this

Anonymous wrote:DS got a 1460 PSAT. He also just got a 1320 on the SAT in August. What do you think happened? Everything I see online shows a higher score/percentile on the SAT rather than the other way around. DS is taking relevant AP classes but I doubt 1 month of that would increase scores so much. Maybe just a bad SAT day?

For comparison, my kid got a 1420 on Aug SAT and 1440 on the October PSAT. But on the SAT got only a 20 point difference b/w reading/ math and 100 point difference b/w the two on the PSAT. As others said, the August SAT may have been more difficult, particularly the reading section. We’ll see what happens on the next SAT.

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Anonymous wrote:DS got a 1460 PSAT. He also just got a 1320 on the SAT in August. What do you think happened? Everything I see online shows a higher score/percentile on the SAT rather than the other way around. DS is taking relevant AP classes but I doubt 1 month of that would increase scores so much. Maybe just a bad SAT day?

An anomaly. August's SAT was challenging because of the Reading portion being particularly dense and leaving many students without enough time to complete it. If this happened to your child, ask him how many questions he guessed on because he had no time. Skipping/not having enough time to answer 3 or 4 questions can crush your score. Math Module 2 hit those with subpar geometry skills particularly hard. Have him study and retake. Practice his grammar, review vocab words and ABOVE ALL master HOW to take the SAT.

Thank you. Can you say more about what you mean by this and what resources would be good to review?

Anonymous wrote:DS got a 1460 PSAT. He also just got a 1320 on the SAT in August. What do you think happened? Everything I see online shows a higher score/percentile on the SAT rather than the other way around. DS is taking relevant AP classes but I doubt 1 month of that would increase scores so much. Maybe just a bad SAT day?

An anomaly. August's SAT was challenging because of the Reading portion being particularly dense and leaving many students without enough time to complete it. If this happened to your child, ask him how many questions he guessed on because he had no time. Skipping/not having enough time to answer 3 or 4 questions can crush your score. Math Module 2 hit those with subpar geometry skills particularly hard. Have him study and retake. Practice his grammar, review vocab words and ABOVE ALL master HOW to take the SAT.

DS got a 1460 PSAT. He also just got a 1320 on the SAT in August. What do you think happened? Everything I see online shows a higher score/percentile on the SAT rather than the other way around. DS is taking relevant AP classes but I doubt 1 month of that would increase scores so much. Maybe just a bad SAT day?

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1350 psat in 11th is likely a 1380-1450 SAT. Aim for schools where that is close to average to find a good fit. A 1350 psat in 11th does not indicate they will be able to get above 1500 on the SAT, and if they do it is likely a fluke. Their true talent level is 93-96th%ile, not 98-99th. T20 are not going to be a good fit.

Anonymous wrote:1350 psat in 11th is likely a 1380-1450 SAT. Aim for schools where that is close to average to find a good fit. A 1350 psat in 11th does not indicate they will be able to get above 1500 on the SAT, and if they do it is likely a fluke. Their true talent level is 93-96th%ile, not 98-99th. T20 are not going to be a good fit.

Do not listen to such ignorance. The PSAT is a one and one test. One can take the SAT as many times as they have the budget and time for. You can also superscore the sections.

If you have a 1350 in October of your junior year, by this time next year you will most likely have taken the June, August, Sept and/or October test. Study and practice.

1350 psat in 11th is likely a 1380-1450 SAT. Aim for schools where that is close to average to find a good fit. A 1350 psat in 11th does not indicate they will be able to get above 1500 on the SAT, and if they do it is likely a fluke. Their true talent level is 93-96th%ile, not 98-99th. T20 are not going to be a good fit.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter got a 1220 on the PSAT and 1510 on the SAT with a lot of Khan academy and practice tests in the middle. No formal tutoring or prep.

similar, i think my kid had a 1250 PSAT and 1510 SAT -- tried an online class with Princeton Review but barely went up (got our money back) and then studied on his own with Khan Academy and got a 1510 (super score - two sittings).

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Anonymous wrote:Ditch the tutor. Sign them up for Uworld, use oneprep, Khan, the chem guy and but others on Youtube. Take and STUDY the practice tests.

If in 9th grade, a 1500 is likely by end of sophomore year

What is the chem guy?

Yes - what is The Chem Guy. Do you mean "That One Math Guy"? I couldn't find anything SAT related for the chem guy...

If you google Organic Chemistry tutor youtube. 10 million subscribers.

He is one of the best for SAT math.

Anonymous wrote:Ditch the tutor. Sign them up for Uworld, use oneprep, Khan, the chem guy and but others on Youtube. Take and STUDY the practice tests.

If in 9th grade, a 1500 is likely by end of sophomore year

yep

Anonymous wrote:My kids took the SAT in August and the PSAT (11th grade) in October.

Kid 1: 1560 SAT, 1450 PSAT
Kid 2: 1540 SAT, 1470 PSAT

Mine got 1520 SAT, 1490 PSAT both October
Does that mean there’s still room for improvement on the SAT? We’re thinking not taking it again.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ditch the tutor. Sign them up for Uworld, use oneprep, Khan, the chem guy and but others on Youtube. Take and STUDY the practice tests.

If in 9th grade, a 1500 is likely by end of sophomore year

What is the chem guy?

Yes - what is The Chem Guy. Do you mean "That One Math Guy"? I couldn't find anything SAT related for the chem guy...