He was stupid on so many levels and should have never been anywhere near kids.

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Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

It wasn’t an accident because he had been warned before not to do this. Take a gander at the original thread on this, he’s a total POS and this isn’t anything like the car deaths you’re thinking of.
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1216767.page

Anonymous wrote:If you’re not supposed to leave a kid alone in a car in Arizona, it would be nice if somebody told people about this rule ahead of time.

You needed the government to tell you that you're not supposed to cook your child to death?

If you’re not supposed to leave a kid alone in a car in Arizona, it would be nice if somebody told people about this rule ahead of time.

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Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

This. I live in the Southwest, and you know exactly how hot it is. It feels live you're in an oven at all times, often you can't go outside between 10am-10pm. Even with the AC blasting my car is crazy hot in the summer. Everyone is extremely cautious here, there are public awareness campaigns all over, and the fact that his wife reminded him multiple times shows he knew exactly what he was doing.

Can you even imagine being married to someone like that? Like you had to remind him not to leave his child in a burning car.

She stuck with him, and vacationed with him. Some women just don't know when to walk away. Hopefully she gets therapy and is able to find some peace for her other children.

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Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

This. I live in the Southwest, and you know exactly how hot it is. It feels live you're in an oven at all times, often you can't go outside between 10am-10pm. Even with the AC blasting my car is crazy hot in the summer. Everyone is extremely cautious here, there are public awareness campaigns all over, and the fact that his wife reminded him multiple times shows he knew exactly what he was doing.

Can you even imagine being married to someone like that? Like you had to remind him not to leave his child in a burning car.

Well I can imagine being his widow anyway

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Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

This. I live in the Southwest, and you know exactly how hot it is. It feels live you're in an oven at all times, often you can't go outside between 10am-10pm. Even with the AC blasting my car is crazy hot in the summer. Everyone is extremely cautious here, there are public awareness campaigns all over, and the fact that his wife reminded him multiple times shows he knew exactly what he was doing.

Can you even imagine being married to someone like that? Like you had to remind him not to leave his child in a burning car.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

This. I live in the Southwest, and you know exactly how hot it is. It feels live you're in an oven at all times, often you can't go outside between 10am-10pm. Even with the AC blasting my car is crazy hot in the summer. Everyone is extremely cautious here, there are public awareness campaigns all over, and the fact that his wife reminded him multiple times shows he knew exactly what he was doing.

I hope he flinched and suffered horrific pain in his final minutes.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

You should look at the Arizona murder statute before saying something like this. Second degree murder:

“Under circumstances manifesting extreme indifference to human life, the person recklessly engages in conduct that creates a grave risk of death and thereby causes the death of another person, including an unborn child or, as a result of recklessly causing the death of another person, causes the death of an unborn child.“

Good riddance.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

+1

I'm not in Arizona but I have never left my child alone in the car. If they were asleep when they were toddlers/babies and I didn't want to distrub them, I'd just sit in the car with them until they woke up.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.

My guess is he left her sleeping with the A/C on, then spaced about the auto shutoff while engrossed in his dumb addictive gaming.

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Anonymous wrote:He was a terrible father.

Absolutely. But again, seems more like gross negligence than murder per se. Many murderers who committed the act with intent have received lighter sentences.

Second-degree murder does not necessarily require intent to kill. A person who kills someone by behaving so recklessly as to create a grave and unjustifiable risk to human life is guilty of second-degree murder.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So he didn’t kill himself after killing his daughter but only when he was about to go to jail.

Correct. Apparently the plea agreement meant he would do 20-30 years, which apparently he couldn't face. But it does once more show where his priorities lay.

20-30 years seems like a crazy high sentence under a plea agreement. It was negligence for sure but ultimately an accident. A number of other parents responsible for hot car deaths were never even charged. I'm a bit perplexed by this.

Yeah it's weird. It's (unfortunately) a fairly normal thing for a lot of people to leave babies and toddlers in their car, while they sleep after coming back home. His intent was not to kill. It probably was not on his mind that it was so hot and this could have happened.

That is NOT a normal practice in Arizona especially not in the summer. I’ve left pens in my car and it gets so hot the pen literally explodes like an ink bomb all over your car.