Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:12
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.
Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.
Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.
You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.
You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.
You might want to take a closer look at their schedules. Many of the schools in the major conferences only play a couple
of ranked teams a year. Indiana for example has no ranked teams on its schedule for the rest of the year.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:08
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.
Um, who was i the National Championship last year? Oh right, ND.
Thanks to their independent status. In a real conference their record would probably take a hit.
They’re basically playing an ACC schedule.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:08
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:ND will never join the Big10. If they ever are forced to join a conference it would be the ACC Which short of the Ivy Lesgue has several elite schools Duke, Stanford, Cal, UVA, Ga Tech. They are already a proud member of the ACC in every other sport. USC needs the rivalry more than ND.
The ONLY reason Stanford and Cal went to the ACC was because they weren’t invited to the B1G and not because of academics. USC is in the big leagues now, they don’t need ND. You have it backwards.
Neither team “needs” the other. They just want the other.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:03
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:ND will never join the Big10. If they ever are forced to join a conference it would be the ACC Which short of the Ivy Lesgue has several elite schools Duke, Stanford, Cal, UVA, Ga Tech. They are already a proud member of the ACC in every other sport. USC needs the rivalry more than ND.
When USC was in the PAC 12 they needed Notre Dame. The money from the Big Ten doesn’t make it necessary nymore. If ND can’t schedule big games like USC, they will suffer much more than USC.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:01
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:ND will never join the Big10. If they ever are forced to join a conference it would be the ACC Which short of the Ivy Lesgue has several elite schools Duke, Stanford, Cal, UVA, Ga Tech. They are already a proud member of the ACC in every other sport. USC needs the rivalry more than ND.
They joined the Big Ten for hockey.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 18:00
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.
Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.
Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.
You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.
You don’t understand. The major conferences already play 8-9 conference games plus a championship game if they finish at the top. That leaves 3-4 non conference games that usually include at least one high quality opponent. Many of those conference games are rivalry games with traditions as long or even longer than USC and ND. ND has a history of dropping out of established rivalry games, such as Michigan, because they know if hurts their chances at national championships if they lose. Because they refuse to join a conference, they might lose out on the playoffs this year since the rest of their schedule is relatively weak. Look at who they have left to play the rest of this season; BC, Navy, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, and Stanford. Not exactly a murderers row. The rest of the schools in major conferences don’t have the luxury of a weak end to their seasons.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 17:39
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:ND will never join the Big10. If they ever are forced to join a conference it would be the ACC Which short of the Ivy Lesgue has several elite schools Duke, Stanford, Cal, UVA, Ga Tech. They are already a proud member of the ACC in every other sport. USC needs the rivalry more than ND.
The ONLY reason Stanford and Cal went to the ACC was because they weren’t invited to the B1G and not because of academics. USC is in the big leagues now, they don’t need ND. You have it backwards.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 17:09
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
ND will never join the Big10. If they ever are forced to join a conference it would be the ACC Which short of the Ivy Lesgue has several elite schools Duke, Stanford, Cal, UVA, Ga Tech. They are already a proud member of the ACC in every other sport. USC needs the rivalry more than ND.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:43
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.
Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.
Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.
You missed the point. Any game not played against a T20 ranked team at the time should be considered an exhibition game and the results shouldn't count. All the supposed top teams schedule several games against a "North Southeast Central Downstate Teacher College" and win 90-0. Even the bad teams in-conference are exceptionally bad. Those games shouldn't count and the teams and the athletes shouldn't accumulate stats from them. NIL and free agency make these lopsided contests an embarrassment.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:42
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Those two programs haven't been consistently at top for years. Notre Dame needs to join a conference or they will be on the outside looking in.
Notre Dame stays out of a conference SO it can have a chance at the championship. They can control their own schedule and pretty much get a pass b/c there is no conference championship.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:35
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Wow, I cannot believe how clueless you all are. I’m very confident that the series will be renewed and continue. Both sides want it. But what’s going on is very simple: USC is adjusting to joining the Big Ten and needs more flexibility in its schedule. They don’t want to agree on a long term deal with dates penciled in. They want to work things out on a yearly basis and preferably schedule the game before conference play begins. There’s even talk of a Week Zero game to open the season for both schools which would make the game a real event.
Notre Dame has a deal in place with the ACC to play five of their teams a year. It also plays Stanford and Navy every year under long term agreement. They don’t need to join a conference but if they ever decide to they’re obligated to join the ACC.
And anyone who says they’ve lost their relevance just doesn’t follow college football. They just played in the NC game last year and finished the season number 2. Every major football program in the country with an opening—Penn State, Florida, etc—wants to steal their coach. They’re as relevant as any and the envy of many.
The major conferences’ top teams don’t need ND to fill their seats. TV however is another matter. I hate how all the conferences are now bowing down to the ridiculous scheduling I see week in and week out. The game against USC started at 11pm locally for Michigan State and didn’t finish until after 2:30 in the morning in the eastern time zone.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:22
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.
Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.
Agree. ND should join a conference and stop ducking opponents.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:21
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Wow, I cannot believe how clueless you all are. I’m very confident that the series will be renewed and continue. Both sides want it. But what’s going on is very simple: USC is adjusting to joining the Big Ten and needs more flexibility in its schedule. They don’t want to agree on a long term deal with dates penciled in. They want to work things out on a yearly basis and preferably schedule the game before conference play begins. There’s even talk of a Week Zero game to open the season for both schools which would make the game a real event.
Notre Dame has a deal in place with the ACC to play five of their teams a year. It also plays Stanford and Navy every year under long term agreement. They don’t need to join a conference but if they ever decide to they’re obligated to join the ACC.
And anyone who says they’ve lost their relevance just doesn’t follow college football. They just played in the NC game last year and finished the season number 2. Every major football program in the country with an opening—Penn State, Florida, etc—wants to steal their coach. They’re as relevant as any and the envy of many.
Notre Dame has a deal in place with the ACC to play five of their teams a year. It also plays Stanford and Navy every year under long term agreement. They don’t need to join a conference but if they ever decide to they’re obligated to join the ACC.
And anyone who says they’ve lost their relevance just doesn’t follow college football. They just played in the NC game last year and finished the season number 2. Every major football program in the country with an opening—Penn State, Florida, etc—wants to steal their coach. They’re as relevant as any and the envy of many.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:21
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.
Who gives a sh!t. The top 20 teams should just play each other regardless of conference since nowadays they probably have 90% of the best athletes, especially at more important positions like QB and OL. Stop ducking opponents to pad stats. Otherwise records don't matter.
Anonymous
10/19/2025 15:15
Subject: A 100 year old Football Rivalry Ending?
I don’t understand why any teams in the major athletic conferences schedule ND. The only upside is for ND.