I don’t understand then question:

Do you think federal service will ever be a desirable or stable career path again?

WAS IT EVER?

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Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

I took the fork. My new private sector job is actually very safe. It also offers 9x the salary I made in gov. The downside is that I’m now working evil, not good— but gov now is also evil, so I didn’t lose anything.

9x??! That seems...unrealistic.

Just a bit unrealistic!!!

Even a lawyer who was still on the GS scale going to a law firm as an equity partner would barely be making 9x, and people low on the GS scale don't have the skills or experience to make 9x their salary. If this is true, which I don't think it is, it's a unicorn experience.

I make about 9x ($100 K GS13 to $900K including bonus) but it took about ten years in the private sector to reach that level.

Tech sales? Law?

Anonymous wrote:I’d leave. At the very least it will be misery for the next 3 years. If things turn around at some point you could probably go back.

Only if you think you may need significant health insurance in retirement (retired Feds get to buy into medigap plans with younger workers subsidizing. 20/30 years service. Keep last five paying federal insurance.

-terminal health diagnosis in the age of blockbuster breakthrough via AI

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Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

I took the fork. My new private sector job is actually very safe. It also offers 9x the salary I made in gov. The downside is that I’m now working evil, not good— but gov now is also evil, so I didn’t lose anything.

9x??! That seems...unrealistic.

Just a bit unrealistic!!!

Even a lawyer who was still on the GS scale going to a law firm as an equity partner would barely be making 9x, and people low on the GS scale don't have the skills or experience to make 9x their salary. If this is true, which I don't think it is, it's a unicorn experience.

I make about 9x ($100 K GS13 to $900K including bonus) but it took about ten years in the private sector to reach that level.

Im a fed along with many relatives. My grandparents were civil service. they got paid very little but a very decent pension. They had modest houses and vacationed in ocean city.

My generation of feds is much higher educated and makes much more money, but not as much as we’d make in the private sector. But the job security and hours are better for most of us.

I can see where the resentment comes from. The job security and pension in the private sector has completely eroded. My grandparents friends worked for xerox or att and had comparable benefits to feds and better pay. That era is gone. People don’t think it’s fair feds should have that on their taxpayer dime when it no longer exists anywhere. But the truth is billionaires are just sucking all the capital up with giant monopoly vacuums that no regulations can apparently keep up with.

Mark cuban has called for these record breaking billionaire to start profit sharing with employees. Frankly its just pragmatic as it’s going to end in revolution if there isn’t reform. Workers rights need to start in the private sector and we should all be fighting for it.

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Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

I took the fork. My new private sector job is actually very safe. It also offers 9x the salary I made in gov. The downside is that I’m now working evil, not good— but gov now is also evil, so I didn’t lose anything.

9x??! That seems...unrealistic.

Just a bit unrealistic!!!

Even a lawyer who was still on the GS scale going to a law firm as an equity partner would barely be making 9x, and people low on the GS scale don't have the skills or experience to make 9x their salary. If this is true, which I don't think it is, it's a unicorn experience.

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Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

I took the fork. My new private sector job is actually very safe. It also offers 9x the salary I made in gov. The downside is that I’m now working evil, not good— but gov now is also evil, so I didn’t lose anything.

9x??! That seems...unrealistic.

Just a bit unrealistic!!!

Not for a generation. There have been many talented, highly credentialed professionals who took public service jobs for less pay recognizing that they would have greater career stability and often more rewarding work. Now federal workers are looked upon with pity as the party in power is on record as wanting to inflict trauma on federal workers.

Who would pick this if they had other options?

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Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

So pay more?

+1. What drew people to federal service was the mission and the stability. They accepted lower pay as a trade off.

If the pay is low, the job is unstable, and the mission doesn’t resonate with people, then no one will want to work there.

No. I am in my early 30s and going back to school so I will never have to work in a govt. adjacent field again. I’ve never been a fed but I literally want nothing to do with govt. contracting, etc.

Anonymous wrote:Current administration wants to eliminate the "my job is guaranteed safe" mentality that is common in the civil service. They want people in the civil service who are there despite the job not being safe or guaranteed.

So pay more?

It may take 5+ years, but our next administration will celebrate our federal workers.

Yes. The future is long.

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