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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So I see the feds have rushed in to defend themselves - all the best performers I'm sure. I ask you though, if you're doing such a great job it must really piss you off seeing all those co-workers coasting along right? I was a DOD contractor for 5 years in the DC area and it was egregious how little some people did. They also didn't have to answer to anyone and had so many early releases/"trainings" etc they barely even had to show up.

Are you telling me you don't know anyone in the private sector who get paid for doing nothing lol?

I don’t. I have been in private for 15 years. Everyone has a lot of responsibility starting from the 23 years old.

Having "lots of responsibilities" does not mean you are "working". We have a data analyst who has been with us for 10 years. She still can't write simple SQL queries. What the f**k does she do all.day? Her job is to fetch data for various stakeholders..that's her "responsibility". Guess what? 1/2 the time I need to get the data myself..and she is still around.

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Anonymous wrote:So I see the feds have rushed in to defend themselves - all the best performers I'm sure. I ask you though, if you're doing such a great job it must really piss you off seeing all those co-workers coasting along right? I was a DOD contractor for 5 years in the DC area and it was egregious how little some people did. They also didn't have to answer to anyone and had so many early releases/"trainings" etc they barely even had to show up.

Are you telling me you don't know anyone in the private sector who get paid for doing nothing lol?

I don’t. I have been in private for 15 years. Everyone has a lot of responsibility starting from the 23 years old.

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Anonymous wrote:As a former fed, I had the opposite experience. We hired private sector contractors and then had to redo all of their work because it was of such poor quality. The problem with a lot of contracts is that they do a terrible job of specifying quality.

I was a statistician at the BLS before moving to Wall Street 20 years ago. I was shocked at the lack of statistical rigor in the private sector. It was insane. And worse, "massaging" data to sell a product was not only common practice but it was expected. It took me awhile to adjust and I never did and eventually left Wall street.

Does Boeing ring a bell to anyone? The for profit sector does not give a sh**t about YOU. It's all about making sure the capital owner squeezing the last cent.

Wall Street still lacks statistical rigor up to today.

Anonymous wrote:I don’t think the hate is directed solely at fed workers. I simply think it’s thrown in any convenient direction since people are generally upset these days. I mean, look at how teachers are treated on site. There was also a rather hostile thread about doctors recently.

+1000. We are depressed nation.

Anonymous wrote:Because they think fed workers have a cushy job with near zero accountability

I think that used to be the stereotype but not any more. I honestly feel bad for the fed workers I know. Its ridiculous what is happening right now and no one deserves to have decades of public service devalued and wiped away by a lunatic.

And as a private sector employee who goes into the office 3x a week, I take no joy in the feds RTO. I miss the days when Metro parking was easy and I don't care where others do their work.

I don’t think the hate is directed solely at fed workers. I simply think it’s thrown in any convenient direction since people are generally upset these days. I mean, look at how teachers are treated on site. There was also a rather hostile thread about doctors recently.

Because they think fed workers have a cushy job with near zero accountability

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Anonymous wrote:So I see the feds have rushed in to defend themselves - all the best performers I'm sure. I ask you though, if you're doing such a great job it must really piss you off seeing all those co-workers coasting along right? I was a DOD contractor for 5 years in the DC area and it was egregious how little some people did. They also didn't have to answer to anyone and had so many early releases/"trainings" etc they barely even had to show up.

Are you telling me you don't know anyone in the private sector who get paid for doing nothing lol?

a lot more on the gov side

Anonymous wrote:So I see the feds have rushed in to defend themselves - all the best performers I'm sure. I ask you though, if you're doing such a great job it must really piss you off seeing all those co-workers coasting along right? I was a DOD contractor for 5 years in the DC area and it was egregious how little some people did. They also didn't have to answer to anyone and had so many early releases/"trainings" etc they barely even had to show up.

Are you telling me you don't know anyone in the private sector who get paid for doing nothing lol?

I was bullied in HS, but I don't wish my bullies ill fate.

I don't recognize our country anymore. I am discouraged at the lack of empathy for others.

While I don't think people necessarily "hate" fed workers, they just lack empathy.

This is who are today. It's frankly sad. Behind every worker is a story, a family, a sick child, etc.

And those who claim nobody cares when private sector workers are laid off are absolutely dumb.

Some fed workers have spouses, partners etc that work in the private sector. When they lose their jobs, do you think their fed employees don't care? Come on

Depressing Friday.

Anyways we think having a bunch of billionaires in power are going to have sympathy for us lol

Today it's fed workers..tomorrow it's the private sector. The same people in lower today claiming to work for you are the same people who eagerly sent your parents jobs to China in the 90s..yep! Now these people claim to want to bring the factories back sure lol. They won't hire you to work in those factories. They will automate them. The ignorance of some of us is incredible.

So I see the feds have rushed in to defend themselves - all the best performers I'm sure. I ask you though, if you're doing such a great job it must really piss you off seeing all those co-workers coasting along right? I was a DOD contractor for 5 years in the DC area and it was egregious how little some people did. They also didn't have to answer to anyone and had so many early releases/"trainings" etc they barely even had to show up.

Anonymous wrote:As a former fed, I had the opposite experience. We hired private sector contractors and then had to redo all of their work because it was of such poor quality. The problem with a lot of contracts is that they do a terrible job of specifying quality.

I was a statistician at the BLS before moving to Wall Street 20 years ago. I was shocked at the lack of statistical rigor in the private sector. It was insane. And worse, "massaging" data to sell a product was not only common practice but it was expected. It took me awhile to adjust and I never did and eventually left Wall street.

Does Boeing ring a bell to anyone? The for profit sector does not give a sh**t about YOU. It's all about making sure the capital owner squeezing the last cent.

Anonymous wrote:When private sector people get let go, downsized or fired, there is no sympathy, and it is just another day. When federal employees, who get paid back, or for a load there is a lot of woah is me and hand wringing. They will be OK. It’s more of a well now it’s your turn to feel what we’ve all felt before.

If you are working in the private sector and you are broke it's your own fault. The amount of money i have made over 20 years the top 1% of paid fed workers will be lucky to make 50% of what I make.

We do well in the private sector.

As a former fed, I had the opposite experience. We hired private sector contractors and then had to redo all of their work because it was of such poor quality. The problem with a lot of contracts is that they do a terrible job of specifying quality.

Anonymous wrote:When private sector people get let go, downsized or fired, there is no sympathy, and it is just another day. When federal employees, who get paid back, or for a load there is a lot of woah is me and hand wringing. They will be OK. It’s more of a well now it’s your turn to feel what we’ve all felt before.

Of course there's sympathy. Not only on a personal level, but there are feds whose jobs are to enforce worker protections related to layoffs and help make sure there are resources (even if administered by the state, the funding and laws are often federal). Stuff like COBRA doesn't happen by itself. It's weird that you want those people to feel pain.