Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 20:19     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
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Anonymous wrote:OP I just want to be clear. Your take is that only white refugees will be allowed to apply? That's what you're saying? How do you feel about political disinformation on online platforms, do you think it should be censored?


Not the OP but when refugee programs only allow white people to apply that's what it means. Trump has given refugee priority to white Afrikaners and has frozen the program for anyone else.

Not sure what that has to do with disinformation and online platforms.

My own position is that online disinformation shouldn't be censored but I do believe it's fair and reasonable to label it as false or disinfo and post a fact check when it's proven to be false, and especially if it's willfully and maliciously misleading, such as election disinfo or other types of things that are genuinely harmful to society. That's not censorship, despite right wingers who claimed it is.


Thanks for the reminder, PP. The US refugee program has been suspended since January 2025 and is currently accepting white South Africans (Afrikaners) under a specific executive exception, while blocking most other admissions. Going forward, the government seems to be planning to 1) lower refugee quotas overall and 2) prioritize white South Africans when granting refugee status (although not exclusively). It sounds a lot like a "whites are preferred" policy even though they will no doubt accept a certain number of non-whites.



So he is claiming only certain whites of the minority whites experience discrimination?

So white South Africans who are not Afrikaners need not apply?


This is the OP. Yes, that's what my research indicates. The Trump admin has suspended the entire refugee program EXCEPT FOR Afrikaners, who have a specific carve out in EO 14204 (2/7/25).

Section 2(b)(ii) of that Executive Order states:
“The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, consistent with applicable law, prioritize humanitarian relief, including admission and resettlement through the United States Refugee Admissions Program, for Afrikaners in South Africa who are victims of unjust racial discrimination, including racially discriminatory property confiscation.”

It's crazy and unprecedented in the history of the US refugee program to ONLY admit refugees from one very narrow racial/ethnic group from one specific country to the exclusion of all others.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 20:16     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?



Lowering the number to just allow white people in is some Nazi garbage.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 20:09     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
The refugee program has been used as a means of increasing the number of immigrants. Every refugee should be subtracted from the green card cap.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 20:06     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
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From the NYT article:

The Trump administration plans to slash refugee admissions to a record low level in the upcoming year, reserving a bulk of the limited slots for white Afrikaners from South Africa and others facing “unjust discrimination,” according to people familiar with the matter and documents obtained by The New York Times.

President Trump is expected to lower the ceiling on refugee admissions to 7,500, a drastic decrease from the cap of 125,000 set by the Biden administration last year, according to a presidential determination dated Sept. 30 and signed by Mr. Trump.

The new limit would effectively shut the door to thousands of families waiting in camps around the world and refocus a program meant to provide sanctuary for those fleeing war and famine to support mostly white South Africans.


Every President sets an annual refugee cap and determines refugee populations that are of humanitarian concern to them. Trump is not doing anything different than other presidents.


"True, every president sets a cap—but Trump slashed it to a historic low, way below past norms. In fact, he slashed it to half of his all-time low cap from his first term, which was 15,000 in 2021. So the super low number is in fact very different.

What’s also different as the bizarre prioritizing of Afrikaners, a group not facing large-scale persecution.

Another difference is that in the past, normal presidents based these caps on geopolitical conditions around the world, which obviously varied somewhat from year to year. There are enough things going on around the world to warrant a higher cap this year. But Trump seems to be basing the cap on the whims of Stephen Miller and the bizarre fixation on Afrikaners on the urging of Elon Musk.

So in fact, Trump IS doing things differently than other presidents. And that’s because he’s not a normal president and does not care about observing past norms or basing his jdecisions on reality.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 19:32     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:

From the NYT article:

The Trump administration plans to slash refugee admissions to a record low level in the upcoming year, reserving a bulk of the limited slots for white Afrikaners from South Africa and others facing “unjust discrimination,” according to people familiar with the matter and documents obtained by The New York Times.

President Trump is expected to lower the ceiling on refugee admissions to 7,500, a drastic decrease from the cap of 125,000 set by the Biden administration last year, according to a presidential determination dated Sept. 30 and signed by Mr. Trump.

The new limit would effectively shut the door to thousands of families waiting in camps around the world and refocus a program meant to provide sanctuary for those fleeing war and famine to support mostly white South Africans.


Every President sets an annual refugee cap and determines refugee populations that are of humanitarian concern to them. Trump is not doing anything different than other presidents.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 19:08     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
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Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?



YES!!! For everyone who always talks about coming in the “right” way, this is yet another example of how this administration makes that notion next to impossible and shits all over our legacy of success as a multicultural country of opportunity. We FAIL when we kill all paths to legal entry.
Last I checked there were many paths to legal entry.


There are not. It is incredibly difficult to get a green card and as in recent years the difficulty has increased dramatically while the numbers allowed in has decreased exponentially. Signed, legal immigrant who thinks the numbers above should be the inverse of what they are now.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 18:38     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP I just want to be clear. Your take is that only white refugees will be allowed to apply? That's what you're saying? How do you feel about political disinformation on online platforms, do you think it should be censored?


Not the OP but when refugee programs only allow white people to apply that's what it means. Trump has given refugee priority to white Afrikaners and has frozen the program for anyone else.

Not sure what that has to do with disinformation and online platforms.

My own position is that online disinformation shouldn't be censored but I do believe it's fair and reasonable to label it as false or disinfo and post a fact check when it's proven to be false, and especially if it's willfully and maliciously misleading, such as election disinfo or other types of things that are genuinely harmful to society. That's not censorship, despite right wingers who claimed it is.


Thanks for the reminder, PP. The US refugee program has been suspended since January 2025 and is currently accepting white South Africans (Afrikaners) under a specific executive exception, while blocking most other admissions. Going forward, the government seems to be planning to 1) lower refugee quotas overall and 2) prioritize white South Africans when granting refugee status (although not exclusively). It sounds a lot like a "whites are preferred" policy even though they will no doubt accept a certain number of non-whites.



So white South Africans who are not Afrikaners need not apply?


This is the OP. Yes, that's what my research indicates. The Trump admin has suspended the entire refugee program EXCEPT FOR Afrikaners, who have a specific carve out in EO 14204 (2/7/25).

Section 2(b)(ii) of that Executive Order states:
“The Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall, consistent with applicable law, prioritize humanitarian relief, including admission and resettlement through the United States Refugee Admissions Program, for Afrikaners in South Africa who are victims of unjust racial discrimination, including racially discriminatory property confiscation.”

It's crazy and unprecedented in the history of the US refugee program to ONLY admit refugees from one very narrow racial/ethnic group from one specific country to the exclusion of all others.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 17:51     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:OP I just want to be clear. Your take is that only white refugees will be allowed to apply? That's what you're saying? How do you feel about political disinformation on online platforms, do you think it should be censored?


Not the OP but when refugee programs only allow white people to apply that's what it means. Trump has given refugee priority to white Afrikaners and has frozen the program for anyone else.

Not sure what that has to do with disinformation and online platforms.

My own position is that online disinformation shouldn't be censored but I do believe it's fair and reasonable to label it as false or disinfo and post a fact check when it's proven to be false, and especially if it's willfully and maliciously misleading, such as election disinfo or other types of things that are genuinely harmful to society. That's not censorship, despite right wingers who claimed it is.


Thanks for the reminder, PP. The US refugee program has been suspended since January 2025 and is currently accepting white South Africans (Afrikaners) under a specific executive exception, while blocking most other admissions. Going forward, the government seems to be planning to 1) lower refugee quotas overall and 2) prioritize white South Africans when granting refugee status (although not exclusively). It sounds a lot like a "whites are preferred" policy even though they will no doubt accept a certain number of non-whites.



So white South Africans who are not Afrikaners need not apply?
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 17:42     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
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Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this isn’t a bigger deal.

They have found this one tiny subset of what was previously a racially oppressive white supremacist regime to prioritize. The fact that this is what anyone wants shows that America is fundamentally wildly racist at its core

Right, which makes it wild that so many people would come here illegally and work dangerous jobs under the table.

Personally I wouldn’t sneak into a country that hates me for the color of my skin.


You would if you were desperate enough.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 17:24     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?



YES!!! For everyone who always talks about coming in the “right” way, this is yet another example of how this administration makes that notion next to impossible and shits all over our legacy of success as a multicultural country of opportunity. We FAIL when we kill all paths to legal entry.
Last I checked there were many paths to legal entry.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 13:17     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?



YES!!! For everyone who always talks about coming in the “right” way, this is yet another example of how this administration makes that notion next to impossible and shits all over our legacy of success as a multicultural country of opportunity. We FAIL when we kill all paths to legal entry.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 13:09     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:I don’t understand why this isn’t a bigger deal.

They have found this one tiny subset of what was previously a racially oppressive white supremacist regime to prioritize. The fact that this is what anyone wants shows that America is fundamentally wildly racist at its core

Right, which makes it wild that so many people would come here illegally and work dangerous jobs under the table.

Personally I wouldn’t sneak into a country that hates me for the color of my skin.
Anonymous
Post 10/05/2025 07:44     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
I don’t understand why this isn’t a bigger deal.

They have found this one tiny subset of what was previously a racially oppressive white supremacist regime to prioritize. The fact that this is what anyone wants shows that America is fundamentally wildly racist at its core
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2025 18:03     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Anonymous wrote:Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?


I don’t know what the “right” number is and what it is usually based on. That’s outside my pay grade.

What I do know, however, is that our US refugee program is suspended per a January 2025 Trump executive order, halting most processing and arrivals except for limited exceptions like white Afrikaners from South Africa. I also know that there were thousands of preapproved applicants who have not been allowed to come here, including Afghani allies, who served as interpreters and in other roles supporting our troops. I find that unacceptable, don’t you?
Anonymous
Post 10/04/2025 17:53     Subject: Only whites need apply: Changes to refugee program
Biden increased the number to 125,000, and it is horrible to lower it to another number?