Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:19     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:I am curious. Does anybody really believe this? I think the reason being given is because Democrats want to give healthcare to illegal immigrants. Which is so blatantly untrue. what is true? Is that Democrats want to preserve and protect the healthcare for Americans.


Wait - WHAT?!??

Anyone with a brain knows the democrats are responsible for the shutdown. That is a simple fact. Why are you asking such an asinine question OP?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:18     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?

Not half.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:03     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?


Half the nation does not have a different opinion. Get out of your bubble. The only ones who believe this are the true adherents. And that is a minority of the minority.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:02     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Ummm - No.

Fascists shut down govt.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:01     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.


To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!


there are all sorts of things that used to require 60 votes. THIS GOP senate has already changed that rule several times. So why not here too? They COULD do it if they wanted to.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:00     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?

It’s not half the nation. It’s the same crazy third, over and over again.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 17:00     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats.


They didn't offer a clean CR, though, no matter what they claim. That is part of the problem.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:59     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.


To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!


Wow MAGA, you all started the year claiming there was a big, amazing mandate for Trump to wield power wherever he wanted. Now you whine about 7 Democrats holding up Trump's government? If MAGA are consistent in anything it's being pathetic.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:57     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?



It’s not an opinion.

What’s inconceivable is that half of America is this ignorant and gullible.


"You all are dumb. Vote like me, losers," is not a winning message even if it fulfills your need to bully people. Whenever you see Trump on your screen, remember that part of why he is there is voter disgust at Democratic mean girls.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:55     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.


To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!

Part of the House's job is to read the room and send the Senate something they'll actually vote for. That hasn't happened yet.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:51     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:It's totally believable. A clean CR would have avoided a shutdown while allowing for negotiations around Democratic political priorities. Instead, blackmail was employed to try to force those priorities through without further negotiation. It's a form of either extortion, or a negotiating tactic, depending on your perspective, but in either case it's attributable to the Democrats.


But it’s not a clean CR.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:50     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?



It’s not an opinion.

What’s inconceivable is that half of America is this ignorant and gullible.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:46     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.


To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!


The Republicans control the Executive and Legislature right now. That's exactly how the everyday American who doesn't closely follow politics sees it. The Republicans have the power to negotiate. They even have the President that had The Art of the Deal ghostwritten for him.
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:41     Subject: Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Is it so inconceivable to you that half the nation has a different opinion?
Anonymous
Post 10/02/2025 16:40     Subject: Re:Is there anybody who truly believes at Democrats are the reason for the shut down?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Republicans control both the Presidency, Senate, and House right now. It's on them.


To don’t understand politics????


This needs to pass the House, it has.
President needs to sign, he will.

It needs 60 votes in the Senate to pass!
Republicans only control 53 seats.


So yes, Democrats are holding up the Bill!!! Shut Down is on them!!!


They sure didn't care about Democrats when they were voting on their TERRIBLE reconciliation bill. Before Trump, the bill would have been bipartisan. This is what you get when you are jerks and no longer believe that you need anyone. Turns out you do.