Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
How would that stop people from being murdered tomorrow or this year? Those are long term solutions that wouldn’t solve the immediate problem. You know that if that many white people were being murdered in the 90s they would have sent in the National Guard 1,000%.
Stop being daft and obtuse.
Because you come from a racist viewpoint, you really don’t even understand.
It’s like me trying to explain graduate school material to a kindergarten.
The solution is always more services. The solution for farmers is to give them money. The solution for white addicts is to give them rehab.
You’re being daft and obtuse if you don’t understand that. Look at Baltimore. Reduce crime by 87% in one year through services like I mentioned.
You so badly want a police black bodies you can’t even see how racist you are. We literally would never do that to white people and that’s why people are up in arms that the National Guard is walking around safe neighborhoods.
Where are you getting these Baltimore crime stats from? Baltimore has seen only a 22% decrease in homicides in any official numbers I’ve seen:
https://www.baltimorepolice.org/news/baltimore-police-department-releases-2025-mid-year-crime-report-and-key-highlights
By comparison, DC has seen a more than a 100% decrease in the murder rate since the National Guard showed up. That means less Black men are dead. Doesn’t that matter to you?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
You seem to be delusional at best or arguing in bad faith at worst. There were 400+ murders in DC a year from 1989-1996. Look up the MPD report that was posted earlier in the thread.
To your second point, are you implying that Black people who murder other Black people shouldn’t be put in jail? I don’t even understand your point. Your post reads like someone who copied and pasted the content of some anti racist books without bothering to add their own thoughts or engage in the actual argument at hand.
I did write that quickly, but what I should’ve said is when a black father is found with a dime bag he has sent to jail, leaving a black child without money and sent into poverty, and that black child is more likely to be the one who grows up to kill.
Also, if that father is found with a dime bag 3× 3 strikes, you’re out and mandatory minimum send him to jail for an inordinate amount of time creating poverty. While a white guy found with cocaine is sent to rehab and his record is expunged.
It’s the laws that have created this mess, and the lack of services for children left behind.
And yes, Baltimore was able to turn it around in less than a year with services not cops.
No one said the disparity between crack and cocaine laws weren’t racist. At least I didn’t.
The point of the thread was to ask if not sending the National Guard in when 400+ Black people were getting murdered a year was racist. Would you agree that if 400+ white people were getting murdered by Black people during this same time period the federal response would have been a lot more aggressive or do you think the nation at the time valued Black lives as much as white lives?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
You seem to be delusional at best or arguing in bad faith at worst. There were 400+ murders in DC a year from 1989-1996. Look up the MPD report that was posted earlier in the thread.
To your second point, are you implying that Black people who murder other Black people shouldn’t be put in jail? I don’t even understand your point. Your post reads like someone who copied and pasted the content of some anti racist books without bothering to add their own thoughts or engage in the actual argument at hand.
I did write that quickly, but what I should’ve said is when a black father is found with a dime bag he has sent to jail, leaving a black child without money and sent into poverty, and that black child is more likely to be the one who grows up to kill.
Also, if that father is found with a dime bag 3× 3 strikes, you’re out and mandatory minimum send him to jail for an inordinate amount of time creating poverty. While a white guy found with cocaine is sent to rehab and his record is expunged.
It’s the laws that have created this mess, and the lack of services for children left behind.
And yes, Baltimore was able to turn it around in less than a year with services not cops.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
How would that stop people from being murdered tomorrow or this year? Those are long term solutions that wouldn’t solve the immediate problem. You know that if that many white people were being murdered in the 90s they would have sent in the National Guard 1,000%.
Stop being daft and obtuse.
Because you come from a racist viewpoint, you really don’t even understand.
It’s like me trying to explain graduate school material to a kindergarten.
The solution is always more services. The solution for farmers is to give them money. The solution for white addicts is to give them rehab.
You’re being daft and obtuse if you don’t understand that. Look at Baltimore. Reduce crime by 87% in one year through services like I mentioned.
You so badly want a police black bodies you can’t even see how racist you are. We literally would never do that to white people and that’s why people are up in arms that the National Guard is walking around safe neighborhoods.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
You seem to be delusional at best or arguing in bad faith at worst. There were 400+ murders in DC a year from 1989-1996. Look up the MPD report that was posted earlier in the thread.
To your second point, are you implying that Black people who murder other Black people shouldn’t be put in jail? I don’t even understand your point. Your post reads like someone who copied and pasted the content of some anti racist books without bothering to add their own thoughts or engage in the actual argument at hand.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
How would that stop people from being murdered tomorrow or this year? Those are long term solutions that wouldn’t solve the immediate problem. You know that if that many white people were being murdered in the 90s they would have sent in the National Guard 1,000%.
Stop being daft and obtuse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
It’s still based on a false premise that 400+ people were being murdered per year.
But, yes, if white people were dying at a high rate, we would provide them with jobs, healthcare, and counseling.
But when Black people are dying, we jail them taking fathers out of the home and leaving children and women in poverty.
We don’t have to ask with the response have been different. We already know from history that our response to the black community is to jail them and our response to the white community is to help them.
Since you seem to be have a sophomore understanding of these things, I would suggest educating yourself. A good start with be a documentary called the 13th.
On a brighter scale, your question is is their systematic racism.
Yes, of course there is systematic racism. When white people need help the federal government helps them… They do this by making soft laws (like bankruptcy laws), lowering interest rates, and sending them to college (GI bill).
I personally believe you wanted to send more cops in… that would’ve given the opposite result of helping.
The things that have lowered crime and murders in Baltimore and Boston our jobs, healthcare, teen summer programs, etc … not more cops
Anonymous wrote:The lack of interest in seeing order in black neighborhoods is in fact racist.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Did 400 children get murdered in the 90's?
I don't think that number is even close to correct.
From 1989 to 1996 no fewer than 400 people were murdered per year in DC.
One year it was even 500+.
https://ocme.dc.gov/sites/default/files/dc/sites/ocme/publication/attachments/APPENDIX%20A%20-%2030%20year.pdf
These were mostly Black men and teenagers. Would the feds have been called in if this many white men and children had been murdered every year, specifically UMC and rich white men and teenagers west of the park.
I think we all know the answer.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP is just trolling.
They might just learn something though if they are open to it.
Not trolling. Do you think the federal response would have been as nonexistent if UMC and rich white men and children (that is, teenagers) were being murdered?
It’s a simple yes or no question.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.
We can simplify it. It 400+ UMC and rich white men and children, mostly in WOTP neighborhoods, were being murdered per year in DC from 1989 to 1996, what do you think the federal response would have been?
Is that clear enough?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP is just trolling.
They might just learn something though if they are open to it.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean? Do you mean if Sidwell students were killed there would be more police presence? what exactly are you asking?
Have no idea how the original post was confusing if you had any historical knowledge of the city. In the 1990s, when DC was recording 300+ and sometimes 400+ murders a year, was it racist to not extend federal support? Do you think federal support would have been extended if rich white kids were being murdered at the same staggering volume?
It is confusing because 1. children were not being murdered at that rate walking home from school 2. What is "federal support"... troops? jobs? addiction counseling? jobs programs?
The question was based on a false premise then used non-specific language like "federal support".
that is why it is confusing.