Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 18:04     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate going is up worrisome for that long term reputation I don't know why they let more students in


Yes. That worries me too. I mean, reputation and the perceived value of a degree is way more important than a state school actually educating more kids. Hopefully they come to their senses soon.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 17:58     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:40% instate acceptance rate


Whose university is it again?
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 14:48     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate going is up worrisome for that long term reputation I don't know why they let more students in

I hate this attitude. It’s the reason kids with 1500+ SATs scores struggle to get admitted to college. Michigan has been rejecting lots of top-notch kids. Admitting more top-notch kids won’t hurt their academic reputation. And frankly people who think colleges should be nothing more than country clubs, defined more by the people they exclude than the people they educate, will always and forever look down on Michigan for being a state school.

+1. My 3.98/1560 kid was waitlisted and not admitted to Michigan this past year. Now, there are reasons (applied RD, which was a mistake) but whatever Michigan's yield algorithm is, it did not detect that he would have attended. He is attending a more highly-ranked school instead, a mid size private also off the waitlist, but if he had been admitted to Michigan in RD, he would have committed and would not have made the switch to the other school in summer. While he landed in a great place obviously, I think Michigan was more his vibe and he didn't realize that until late in the game. Michigan's loss.


The ILUM essay is crucial. They want kids who are obsessed with the school. If he didn’t realize it till later, that’s his fault, not theirs.


RD really was the big mistake. In-staters who want any crack at U of M all apply EA.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 14:45     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate going is up worrisome for that long term reputation I don't know why they let more students in

I hate this attitude. It’s the reason kids with 1500+ SATs scores struggle to get admitted to college. Michigan has been rejecting lots of top-notch kids. Admitting more top-notch kids won’t hurt their academic reputation. And frankly people who think colleges should be nothing more than country clubs, defined more by the people they exclude than the people they educate, will always and forever look down on Michigan for being a state school.


And yet how these T20 schools maintain their mystique is by minimizing their acceptance rates, it's a self fulfilling cycle where lower admit rate leads to more applicants next cycle. And their admissions team wouldn't bring down their acceptances is crazy to me especially with 900 more students
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 12:06     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate going is up worrisome for that long term reputation I don't know why they let more students in

I hate this attitude. It’s the reason kids with 1500+ SATs scores struggle to get admitted to college. Michigan has been rejecting lots of top-notch kids. Admitting more top-notch kids won’t hurt their academic reputation. And frankly people who think colleges should be nothing more than country clubs, defined more by the people they exclude than the people they educate, will always and forever look down on Michigan for being a state school.

+1. My 3.98/1560 kid was waitlisted and not admitted to Michigan this past year. Now, there are reasons (applied RD, which was a mistake) but whatever Michigan's yield algorithm is, it did not detect that he would have attended. He is attending a more highly-ranked school instead, a mid size private also off the waitlist, but if he had been admitted to Michigan in RD, he would have committed and would not have made the switch to the other school in summer. While he landed in a great place obviously, I think Michigan was more his vibe and he didn't realize that until late in the game. Michigan's loss.


The ILUM essay is crucial. They want kids who are obsessed with the school. If he didn’t realize it till later, that’s his fault, not theirs.


Agree with this. The absolute love and adoration for all things Michigan needed to be conveyed so there would be no mistaking it. A good set of Michigan supplements might actually take you longer than any Ivy League school’s Supp
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 12:04     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
40% instate acceptance rate
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 11:59     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:New stats released: https://obp.umich.edu/wp-content/uploads/pubdata/factsfigures/firstyearsprofile_umaa_2025.pdf

From Fall 2024 to Fall 2025, the University of Michigan saw a significant increase in applications and enrollment, though its yield rate slightly declined.
* Acceptance Rate: Despite a 10.8% surge in applications (from 98,310 to 109,112), the university became slightly less selective. The overall acceptance rate increased from 15.6% in 2024 to 16.4% in 2025.
* Enrollment: The incoming first-year class is substantially larger. Total enrollment grew by 12.4%, increasing from 7,278 students in 2024 to 8,178 in 2025.
* Yield Rate: The percentage of admitted students who chose to enroll saw a slight drop. The yield rate decreased from 47.3% in 2024 to 45.7% in 2025, indicating a slightly lower conversion of offers into enrolled students.

TLDR, my thoughts: was this an issue with yield management? It's strange that they grew their class size by 900 students, or maybe they're trying to fill a revenue gap?

Early decision is going to do wonders for yield and I wouldn't be surprised if they can get the acceptance rate down to more in the 12-14% range


They were trying to fill a revenue gap. They can do so by their large percentage of higher pay OOS students too. They are now addressing yield management by introducing binding ED for the first time.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 11:55     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:The acceptance rate going is up worrisome for that long term reputation I don't know why they let more students in

I hate this attitude. It’s the reason kids with 1500+ SATs scores struggle to get admitted to college. Michigan has been rejecting lots of top-notch kids. Admitting more top-notch kids won’t hurt their academic reputation. And frankly people who think colleges should be nothing more than country clubs, defined more by the people they exclude than the people they educate, will always and forever look down on Michigan for being a state school.

+1. My 3.98/1560 kid was waitlisted and not admitted to Michigan this past year. Now, there are reasons (applied RD, which was a mistake) but whatever Michigan's yield algorithm is, it did not detect that he would have attended. He is attending a more highly-ranked school instead, a mid size private also off the waitlist, but if he had been admitted to Michigan in RD, he would have committed and would not have made the switch to the other school in summer. While he landed in a great place obviously, I think Michigan was more his vibe and he didn't realize that until late in the game. Michigan's loss.


The ILUM essay is crucial. They want kids who are obsessed with the school. If he didn’t realize it till later, that’s his fault, not theirs.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 11:51     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Duke and Yale and Cornell announced larger classes.

I’m sure others did too. It’s about more full pay to offset funding cuts.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 10:50     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:2007 was the largest number of births in America on record. It makes sense that they would have larger classes.

That's not how enrollment decisions are made. Universities do not have unlimited flexibility in enrollment. Absent some particular mission/goal changes, the primary reason to stretch size is revenue. This is well known and was entirely expected this year. It was even mentioned in the YCBK podcast (sorry, I know this podcast is often advertised in this forum, but in this case they were right).

While it’s true that the schools decided to expand to increase revenue, the larger birth cohort is the reason they were able to expand without compromising on student quality.
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 10:46     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
Anonymous wrote:2007 was the largest number of births in America on record. It makes sense that they would have larger classes.

That's not how enrollment decisions are made. Universities do not have unlimited flexibility in enrollment. Absent some particular mission/goal changes, the primary reason to stretch size is revenue. This is well known and was entirely expected this year. It was even mentioned in the YCBK podcast (sorry, I know this podcast is often advertised in this forum, but in this case they were right).
Anonymous
Post 09/28/2025 10:41     Subject: UMich Fall 2025 Entering Class Stats
2007 was the largest number of births in America on record. It makes sense that they would have larger classes.