Related- anyone know when the Fall 2025 accreditation results are released? Last I looked it just says coming soon

Anonymous wrote:China laughs at our educational regression. At least this new SOL increase is a small step in the right direction.

What an absolutely idiotic statement. Have you actually seen Pearson tests? No, you have not, because most aren't released to the public. You haven't seen how poorly composed the reading selections are, how obtusely worded are the questions, and how most questions actually contain several steps of completion that must ALL be correct in order to get any credit (which they call increased "rigor".)

The tests are designed to make schools looks like they are failing. And arbitrarily raising the pass score from 400 to 453 or 479 is utterly ARBITRARILY going to make a passing student look like a failing student, and a good school look like a bad school.

You have to ask: Who does this benefit? Do you really believe that 3rd grade reading proficiency should arbitrarily be cut off at a much higher level than proficiency used to be measured at?

No. This is entirely political, entirely pushed by the testing companies who continues to profit obscenely by siphoning public education money away from schools, and pushed by politicians whose goals are to shot down public schooling as we know it.

Doing this while also making the SOL part of the final grade but cutting funding and staffing at the same time is nonsensical and punitive. We can’t magically raise the scores for kids who have massive gaps in education or are EL and taking these tests in their second language without more support.

Anonymous wrote:Asinine changes but an administration bent on making our schools look bad.

Want to increase rigor? Then do so while maintaining that scoring system of 400=pass and 500=pass advanced. The new scoring thresholds will only serve to confuse educators, the community, and drive a further wedge into public ed. Thankful that VDOE is going to be gutted after the November election!

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Manipulating data in an effort to defund our public schools.

Anonymous wrote:No, it hasn’t been fully discussed yet because the information is not finalized. In the article posted, it says that there are still many aspects to be worked out.

At the last all-county principals meeting, principals were made aware that this was being discussed and voted on. But there’s not much else to do, talk about or worry about since there are still many details missing. Any discussion now would be speculation.

DCUM likes to engage in all sorts of speculation conversations which leaves me not surprised that OP is bringing this up.

Especially right before an election.

This change will just make our schools look bad… If they do change it, then make it something that will be from this point… because the kids that are under a 430 who have passed in the system will be marked as a fail, and that is bad for teachers, students, and the state, since it will show more students have been failing their state test (which is a complete joke)

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Anonymous wrote:Asinine changes but an administration bent on making our schools look bad.

Want to increase rigor? Then do so while maintaining that scoring system of 400=pass and 500=pass advanced. The new scoring thresholds will only serve to confuse educators, the community, and drive a further wedge into public ed. Thankful that VDOE is going to be gutted after the November election!

Time for teachers across the state to say NO together. Everyone is constantly pivoting mid year. You want to overhaul you do it by giving schools time, resources and well thought out planned actions. ENOUGH mid year pivots. No one can teach with the constant inconsistence and uncertainty. Everyone one of my colleagues is damn tired and the kids are the ones losing out with the unattainable demands that take away from actual teaching and learning.

You know what could fix all this? A good Aeospace HS! Thanks for your focus FCPS on what matters.

Anonymous wrote:Asinine changes but an administration bent on making our schools look bad.

Want to increase rigor? Then do so while maintaining that scoring system of 400=pass and 500=pass advanced. The new scoring thresholds will only serve to confuse educators, the community, and drive a further wedge into public ed. Thankful that VDOE is going to be gutted after the November election!

Time for teachers across the state to say NO together. Everyone is constantly pivoting mid year. You want to overhaul you do it by giving schools time, resources and well thought out planned actions. ENOUGH mid year pivots. No one can teach with the constant inconsistence and uncertainty. Everyone one of my colleagues is damn tired and the kids are the ones losing out with the unattainable demands that take away from actual teaching and learning.

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Anonymous wrote:In that case, would previous pass scores be a fail in the system now? My kid got a 413 on her 5th grade science SOL… but they don’t say anything about the science SOL. My kid is perfectly fine on everything except the science one

Yes.

No this would be a huge legal battle across the state. If you change criteria it has to be a moving forward change. It's like saying mid senior year just kidding what you have been doing for the last four years does not count because w changed diploma options sorry. Also SOL's are a joke. This is just this psycho admin trying to move forward with their voucher program.

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Anonymous wrote:In that case, would previous pass scores be a fail in the system now? My kid got a 413 on her 5th grade science SOL… but they don’t say anything about the science SOL. My kid is perfectly fine on everything except the science one

Is it still the case that science SOL is covering multiple years on a test?

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Anonymous wrote:In that case, would previous pass scores be a fail in the system now? My kid got a 413 on her 5th grade science SOL… but they don’t say anything about the science SOL. My kid is perfectly fine on everything except the science one

Yes.

No this would be a huge legal battle across the state. If you change criteria it has to be a moving forward change. It's like saying mid senior year just kidding what you have been doing for the last four years does not count because w changed diploma options sorry. Also SOL's are a joke. This is just this psycho admin trying to move forward with their voucher program.

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Anonymous wrote:Can someone translate in words what OP trying to say with the numbers? Is it that SOL scores being raised so have to get a higher score to pass proficient and lower to get pass advanced?

The level for passing will not be uniformly raised across all grades - hence the range of new cutoff scores. The rise in cutoff will also occur over several years, not all at once.

The level for passed advance isn't discussed, but presumably it will also have to be adjusted

The one article says pass proficient for 4th grade math will go from 400 to 445, which if pass advanced was 500, presume they will look to raise that too

Anonymous wrote:In that case, would previous pass scores be a fail in the system now? My kid got a 413 on her 5th grade science SOL… but they don’t say anything about the science SOL. My kid is perfectly fine on everything except the science one

No they can't go backwards on scores.

Anonymous wrote:I really don’t care as my kids always have passed.

We don't care that your kids passed

Asinine changes but an administration bent on making our schools look bad.

Want to increase rigor? Then do so while maintaining that scoring system of 400=pass and 500=pass advanced. The new scoring thresholds will only serve to confuse educators, the community, and drive a further wedge into public ed. Thankful that VDOE is going to be gutted after the November election!