Anonymous wrote:Those scores are so high, I am sure most students go TO.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a much more nuanced question than many on this board would have you believe. Many on this board resent test optional admissions, especially at “selective schools,” because they feel it disadvantages high scorers and undermines the applicant pool. You really have to look at several factors. If the school is TO, what percentage of admitted applicants submitted scores? If that number is low, you can feel confident applying TO if on the fence. Also, what does the testing distribution at your HS look like? If the school average is high, and lots of peers with higher scores will likely apply to the same school, TO might also make sense. As others have mentioned, there are also situations where you should not report a high scorers because it is below the college’s 25%. This is really something you should talk out with your counselor.
1480 is the one and only time he took it.
I don’t know how I can find out the testing distribution from my kid’s public high school. Is that even public data?
I don’t have a private counselor so I will ask our guidance counselor but I don’t know if he will be able to help he seems so busy.
This is just as complicated as I worried it would be. Uuuggghhh.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean section? He didn’t take any subject tests. He has all fives on various APs except one four in physics. How can I find out the average SAT score at his high school? He wants to major in anthropology or some kind of social science.
Section just means the breakdown of math vs verbal, which you’ve now answered separately.
I agree with a pp that you should submit if the 1480 is at or even just under the 25th percentile, especially for test optional schools where the published scores are skewed higher because lower scores aren’t submitted. Likely he should submit that score everywhere.
I’ve only skimmed so I may have missed someone saying this, but you can find the 25th and 50th percentile score in each school’s Common Data Set, or CDS. Google “CDS [name of school]”. Scroll down to the section about scores (I think maybe section C? Or D? I’ve forgotten, sorry).
Thank you! I just looked at this for one of the high up schools he likes:
25%=1500
50%=1530
75%=1550
What does this mean? Only 25% of students scored lower than a 1500? And so he should do test optional at 1480? According to that view, right?
I see now other people said if he’s less than the 50% number don’t submit. Another person said don’t submit less than 1500 no matter what. And someone else said, just submit 1480 everywhere.
Again, I’m sorry for my lack of knowledge here- both in terms of math and college admissions!
Anonymous wrote:OP, this is a much more nuanced question than many on this board would have you believe. Many on this board resent test optional admissions, especially at “selective schools,” because they feel it disadvantages high scorers and undermines the applicant pool. You really have to look at several factors. If the school is TO, what percentage of admitted applicants submitted scores? If that number is low, you can feel confident applying TO if on the fence. Also, what does the testing distribution at your HS look like? If the school average is high, and lots of peers with higher scores will likely apply to the same school, TO might also make sense. As others have mentioned, there are also situations where you should not report a high scorers because it is below the college’s 25%. This is really something you should talk out with your counselor.
Anonymous wrote:What does the percentage of students submitting scores do to the calculation of whether to submit a 1480 in this case, for example?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:What do you mean section? He didn’t take any subject tests. He has all fives on various APs except one four in physics. How can I find out the average SAT score at his high school? He wants to major in anthropology or some kind of social science.
Section just means the breakdown of math vs verbal, which you’ve now answered separately.
I agree with a pp that you should submit if the 1480 is at or even just under the 25th percentile, especially for test optional schools where the published scores are skewed higher because lower scores aren’t submitted. Likely he should submit that score everywhere.
I’ve only skimmed so I may have missed someone saying this, but you can find the 25th and 50th percentile score in each school’s Common Data Set, or CDS. Google “CDS [name of school]”. Scroll down to the section about scores (I think maybe section C? Or D? I’ve forgotten, sorry).
Thank you! I just looked at this for one of the high up schools he likes:
25%=1500
50%=1530
75%=1550
What does this mean? Only 25% of students scored lower than a 1500? And so he should do test optional at 1480? According to that view, right?
I see now other people said if he’s less than the 50% number don’t submit. Another person said don’t submit less than 1500 no matter what. And someone else said, just submit 1480 everywhere.
Again, I’m sorry for my lack of knowledge here- both in terms of math and college admissions!