Anonymous
09/16/2025 15:01
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Trump said he will let in 600,000 Chinese students. This should make up the difference.
Those students add billions of $ to the economy.
Which means you are a moron, you can not even do the simple math.
Project 2025 has women not going to college, you fool.
Anonymous
09/16/2025 14:58
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:This is a good thing. Many Colleges will be forced to lower tuition to attract student. It’s a reset from the last 30 years of “everyone” going to college while amassing hundreds of thousands of easy money government debt.
Students can only take $5-$6k/year in undergraduate loans. The debt is from graduate school. It will be nice if the price of grad school decreases but I wouldn't bet on it and that is not what this thread is about.
Anonymous
09/15/2025 15:08
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump said he will let in 600,000 Chinese students. This should make up the difference.
Really?
+1 Yup. He seems to be sticking with it. How this country treats international students who require a visa will probably have more of an impact on small colleges than the demographic cliff.
Trump defends U-turn on Chinese student visas after Maga backlash
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78m22x1j9do
I thought there was ban on studying STEM though? I can’t keep up anymore.
Lol-how on earth would colleges do that? "You are an enrolled student, but no science or math for you."
No, the ban was in not allowing for visa’s for studying ‘critical fields’. Presumably STEM. But maybe the more recent announcement overrides the previous talk. Of course was in May which may as well be a few years ago on our current timeline.
https://www.npr.org/2025/05/29/nx-s1-5414341/china-student-visas-rubio
Anonymous
09/15/2025 14:55
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:What looks like a possible blessing for this class of US seniors will turn into a Hunger Games environment for those applying on 2027.
Anonymous
09/15/2025 14:51
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump said he will let in 600,000 Chinese students. This should make up the difference.
Really?
+1 Yup. He seems to be sticking with it. How this country treats international students who require a visa will probably have more of an impact on small colleges than the demographic cliff.
Trump defends U-turn on Chinese student visas after Maga backlash
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78m22x1j9do
I thought there was ban on studying STEM though? I can’t keep up anymore.
Lol-how on earth would colleges do that? "You are an enrolled student, but no science or math for you."
Anonymous
09/15/2025 14:34
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump said he will let in 600,000 Chinese students. This should make up the difference.
Really?
+1 Yup. He seems to be sticking with it. How this country treats international students who require a visa will probably have more of an impact on small colleges than the demographic cliff.
Trump defends U-turn on Chinese student visas after Maga backlash
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78m22x1j9do
I thought there was ban on studying STEM though? I can’t keep up anymore.
Anonymous
09/15/2025 12:23
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Trump said he will let in 600,000 Chinese students. This should make up the difference.
Really?
+1 Yup. He seems to be sticking with it. How this country treats international students who require a visa will probably have more of an impact on small colleges than the demographic cliff.
Trump defends U-turn on Chinese student visas after Maga backlash
https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c78m22x1j9do
Anonymous
09/15/2025 12:22
Subject: Demographic Cliff in College
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:My friend was hired a few years ago by a smaller college to prepare for the cliff. So it made no sense to me when Trump started banning the international kids. I think he had a conversation with someone who told him 15% of the universities will close without the money from internationals. That they actually need more, not less. I think there are only about 200,000 Chinese students now. Numbers have been going down every year.
I’d say lots of small LACs will shut down, but ivies will stay put of course.
There are many small LACs in danger, especially non-selective ones in remote areas. There are also many non-selective publics in danger and these are the interesting ones since there are political consequences to their closing and also for significant price increases. The 'Cliff' is a non-event for selective schools but there will be downstream effects in the future.