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Anonymous wrote:for ivies UNC UVA UMICH - need to qualify for Nike or Footlocker (new name/race) nationals, or sub 4:12 9:06. if you didn’t hit track times junior year, there are always coaches roaming the national x country meets looking for uncommitted kids - but qualifying no easy task

for patriot league level and upper nescacs sub 4:20 9:20

Wildly incorrect

actually they are surprisingly accurate on the men’s side - well done

Anonymous wrote:I have had two distance runners go through the process and here is what they did:

Make a list of schools based on major, size, location, cost (basically if you can't run, do you still want to be there)

Look at times of current runners on TFFRS (my kids wanted to nake sure they would contribute to the team, they didn't want to be #29 on a roster of 30)

Fill out recruiting questionnaires and contact coaches

Visit campus, team, coaches (team fit is huge in a sport like xc)

Running distance is a 3 season sport and you have to have a positive group of people on your team and great coach, I believe that is the most important part of the process

Agree with all of the above. MilesplitPro is a very good resource. You can look at a college roster of a school that interests your daughter, then go to Milesplit to see how those runners did in HS races, to give a point if reference. Look at HS track times specifically. XC times are not relevant, but placement at state level XC meets are if interested in D1.

When my daughter ran in HS, breaking 5:00 in the 1600 was a big deal. She did that as a sophomore and started emailing coaches and got a lot of interest junior year. Scholarship money was pretty weak though (like $5/ semester generally), so she ended up going to an Ivy, and I got stuck writing big checks for four years.

I have had two distance runners go through the process and here is what they did:

Make a list of schools based on major, size, location, cost (basically if you can't run, do you still want to be there)

Look at times of current runners on TFFRS (my kids wanted to nake sure they would contribute to the team, they didn't want to be #29 on a roster of 30)

Fill out recruiting questionnaires and contact coaches

Visit campus, team, coaches (team fit is huge in a sport like xc)

Running distance is a 3 season sport and you have to have a positive group of people on your team and great coach, I believe that is the most important part of the process

Maybe look at SUNY geneseo. Great teams and very good school

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter considered the recruiting path for XC/track. She had a 4.7 GPA, high test scores and a sub 19 5K - had some interest from some decently ranked and well known D3 schools but none that she was particularly interested in. Ultimately decided to focus on academics first and is doing club at an T15. Very happy so far. Club teammates have faster times than her HS teammates that went to lesser known D1s for distance and she has lots of opportunities for competition. Bottom line: look at it from both directions and explore lots of options.

I agree with all of this but being part of a team and being competitive in sports make her happy so I do think a coach/team school would be good for her.

I agree, too -- cast a wide net.

I don't know what state you're in, or how academic she is, but D2 can be quite competitive and can give you some money if that's an academic fit.

Also, know that there are some "low D1s" that can still give you money and it's a slightly more chill experience.

Runcruit is a good resource, BUT, also look at the teams' race results. Runcruit lists the times that teams would LIKE to have -- not necessarily what they do have.

That is good info thank you! We don’t necessarily need money (though I don’t want to pay 90k a year) so hopefully that gives her a bit more options.

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Anonymous wrote:My daughter considered the recruiting path for XC/track. She had a 4.7 GPA, high test scores and a sub 19 5K - had some interest from some decently ranked and well known D3 schools but none that she was particularly interested in. Ultimately decided to focus on academics first and is doing club at an T15. Very happy so far. Club teammates have faster times than her HS teammates that went to lesser known D1s for distance and she has lots of opportunities for competition. Bottom line: look at it from both directions and explore lots of options.

I agree with all of this but being part of a team and being competitive in sports make her happy so I do think a coach/team school would be good for her.

I agree, too -- cast a wide net.

I don't know what state you're in, or how academic she is, but D2 can be quite competitive and can give you some money if that's an academic fit.

Also, know that there are some "low D1s" that can still give you money and it's a slightly more chill experience.

Runcruit is a good resource, BUT, also look at the teams' race results. Runcruit lists the times that teams would LIKE to have -- not necessarily what they do have.

Anonymous wrote:My daughter considered the recruiting path for XC/track. She had a 4.7 GPA, high test scores and a sub 19 5K - had some interest from some decently ranked and well known D3 schools but none that she was particularly interested in. Ultimately decided to focus on academics first and is doing club at an T15. Very happy so far. Club teammates have faster times than her HS teammates that went to lesser known D1s for distance and she has lots of opportunities for competition. Bottom line: look at it from both directions and explore lots of options.

I agree with all of this but being part of a team and being competitive in sports make her happy so I do think a coach/team school would be good for her.

Tfrrs and runcruit will tell you. Also pay for milepslit pro

Search the DCUM sport forum. It’s easier for girls because there are more teams, but basically, start early like sophomore year in research. Look at the roster and times of those athletes and what they ran in college.

Assume there is no running scholarship. Also remember the academic fit, social/size/major fit, and cost fit of schools, particularly top academic D3s where they have more running sports but are more likely to be 60-90k after merit or no merit, vs 40-50k at a D1 public and you run club track.

My daughter considered the recruiting path for XC/track. She had a 4.7 GPA, high test scores and a sub 19 5K - had some interest from some decently ranked and well known D3 schools but none that she was particularly interested in. Ultimately decided to focus on academics first and is doing club at an T15. Very happy so far. Club teammates have faster times than her HS teammates that went to lesser known D1s for distance and she has lots of opportunities for competition. Bottom line: look at it from both directions and explore lots of options.

Anonymous wrote:5k - in the lower 19s

Spend time on tffrs looking at runners times, class year and you will get an idea of where she might fit. Look on college recruiting pages for their recruiting cutoffs as well.

Things are moving right now with high academic D3 and top schools which opted out of revenue sharing becoming much more competitive. Good luck!

Anonymous wrote:No walk ons for D1 unless a recruit "no shows" last minute. All the roster spots are accounted for with recruits.

Again not at all true.