Anonymous
09/14/2025 13:37
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APsI guess we can't consider any UK schools? How about Waterloo/Toronto or St. Andrews? Thanks!
Here are the requirements for international students at Oxford:
Either Four APs at grade 5 (including any subjects required for the course you are applying to)
OR
Three APs at grade 5 (including any subjects required for the course you are applying to) plus a score of 33 or above in the ACT or 1480 or above (out of 1600) in the SAT. We do not require the optional essay for either the ACT or the SAT.
Please note that Calculus AB and Calculus BC cannot be counted as two separate subjects for the purposes of meeting your offer, whether taken as separate tests or by receiving the AB sub-score when taking Calculus BC.
If you are applying for a course that requires Mathematics you should take Calculus BC if you are able to do so. However, courses will accept Calculus AB if you are unable to take Calculus BC.
Please remember for Oxford these are MINIMUM reqs. Also likely a subject test and if scored highly enough - a zoom interview before any offer.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 10:20
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.
Wouldn't they have to take all their classes in French??
No, the Bachelor’s program is entirely in English.
https://programmes.polytechnique.edu/en/bachelor/about-the-bachelor/bachelor-of-science
Three double majors : math/physics, math/computer science, math/economics.
A steal at 15000 euros a year!
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:50
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APs
Here are the requirements for international students at Oxford:
Either Four APs at grade 5 (including any subjects required for the course you are applying to)
OR
Three APs at grade 5 (including any subjects required for the course you are applying to) plus a score of 33 or above in the ACT or 1480 or above (out of 1600) in the SAT. We do not require the optional essay for either the ACT or the SAT.
Please note that Calculus AB and Calculus BC cannot be counted as two separate subjects for the purposes of meeting your offer, whether taken as separate tests or by receiving the AB sub-score when taking Calculus BC.
If you are applying for a course that requires Mathematics you should take Calculus BC if you are able to do so. However, courses will accept Calculus AB if you are unable to take Calculus BC.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 09:11
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APsAnonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Each college will have its own entry requirements. One really needs to check with each college. Very likely on their website.
At least for most UK colleges, admissions requirements vary by the specific degree sought (e.g., CS, history, math, or whatever).
Also, for colleges in England and Wales, one applies to a specific degree program - and changes of subject are difficult (a very few exceptions probably exist). In Scotland, it is easier to change subjects than it is in England, but still not as simple as it is at UMCP or UVa.
For most UK colleges, one must apply via UCAS. A few exceptions exist - for example, US students can apply to U. StAndrews without using UCAS.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 07:35
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Do you need the 3-5 AP 5s OR just the ACT/SAT 35/1550? My child has the latter but has all 4s so far on APs
I guess we can't consider any UK schools? How about Waterloo/Toronto or St. Andrews? Thanks!
Anonymous
09/14/2025 05:32
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Depending on the uni/program, if APs/ACTs/SATs meet minimum requirements (x number of relevant AP 5s plus 1500 or 34/35), applicants will need to interview and/or take additional subject-specific tests. E.g. DD applied to ICL for CS and, after meeting the AP/SAT requirements, had to interview and also take the "easiest" of Cambridge's STEP/math tests. FWIW, unlike the US's SAT/ACT/APs, the Oxford MAT and Cambridge STEP tests aren't trivial. A UK friend of mine had the A-levels for Cambridge, had to take STEP, said it was the hardest exam he'd ever sat for. DD's experience was similar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Only Cambridge and Oxford interview candidates before putting out an offer. LSE may interview some. The rest really don't bother any more. It used to be a lot more common years ago.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 05:30
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Not really. They want all 5's as well, plus transcripts, letters of recommendation and anything else confirming your kid is academically viable. That's not really holistic. There's no interviews with these places. They do read your Personal Statement but that is written to show your ability to take up a place on a specific course, so it doesn't include sports and EC's unless directly related to that. We have just been through this cycle with two DC who are starting in the UK this week.
I forgot to say, if STEM they rarely, if ever look at the PS. Many of these unis will use it as a "tie-breaker" in rare circumstances.
Anonymous
09/14/2025 05:22
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Not really. They want all 5's as well, plus transcripts, letters of recommendation and anything else confirming your kid is academically viable. That's not really holistic. There's no interviews with these places. They do read your Personal Statement but that is written to show your ability to take up a place on a specific course, so it doesn't include sports and EC's unless directly related to that. We have just been through this cycle with two DC who are starting in the UK this week.
Anonymous
09/13/2025 22:10
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Depending on the uni/program, if APs/ACTs/SATs meet minimum requirements (x number of relevant AP 5s plus 1500 or 34/35), applicants will need to interview and/or take additional subject-specific tests. E.g. DD applied to ICL for CS and, after meeting the AP/SAT requirements, had to interview and also take the "easiest" of Cambridge's STEP/math tests. FWIW, unlike the US's SAT/ACT/APs, the Oxford MAT and Cambridge STEP tests aren't trivial. A UK friend of mine had the A-levels for Cambridge, had to take STEP, said it was the hardest exam he'd ever sat for. DD's experience was similar.Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:With all the hate and politics surrounding colleges in the U.S., DC is very interested in Canada, UK and other schools. Would like to study most likely business/finance or engineering. 4.0 UW and practice ACT scores of 34/35. Any recommendations?
Most UK top (not all) will require at least 3 AP tests at 5. Some will ask for 5 at 5’s, others will do will a couple of 4’s and others like StA and Edinburgh and Bristol are more in tune with the different US systems and will look at your kid’s application more holistic.
For Engineering: Imperial, Bristol and Edinburgh
For Business (in UK it could be called Management, Econ Mgmt, Finance, Financial Econ, etc): Oxford, St Andrews, Warwick, LSE, UCL
You can look at the UK’s main rankings here. They rank by subject, undergrad teaching only, not about PhD Research: https://www.thecompleteuniversityguide.co.uk/league-tables/rankings/business-and-management-studies
Anonymous
09/13/2025 21:59
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Ecole Polytechnique in Paris.
Wouldn't they have to take all their classes in French??
Anonymous
09/13/2025 21:23
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcgill
Can anyone elaborate? Thanks
Other than stem, the Desautels Faculty of Management at McGill is very good also
Anonymous
09/13/2025 21:07
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
I went to MIT and MIT had a program with Cambridge. It also allowed Ecole Polytechnique, but just accepted P/F no grades.
Anonymous
09/13/2025 20:56
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
ACT scores still go up to 36 I believe. Are practice tests different?
Anonymous
09/13/2025 20:54
Subject: Colleges out of the U.S. for STEM
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Mcgill
Can anyone elaborate? Thanks
DP. McGill is very rigorous in STEM, perhaps too rigorous. Anyone who survives Mcgill with a STEM will do well. Mental health for the STEM students is an area to worry about there, sadly. It really is very high stress.