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Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

By "they" I don't mean Caltech. I meant DCUM moms ...

CalTech and MIT are the only schools looking to fill 75% of the class from that 1580+ bucket, though. HYPS fill 25% of the class from that bucket, 50% from the 1500-1570 bucket, and 25% from the sub-1500 bucket. So DCUM moms are correct that 1500 or 1520 is the threshold for an unhooked kid to bother applying.

Where are you getting that MIT targets to have 75% of the class as 1580 and over?

My child was told by a recruiter that only 25% of MIT are above 1570.

Or do you just mean MIT is "looking to fill" as in it aspires to have 75% in the 1580 bucket, but the reality is that MIT constantly falls far, far short of this "looking to fill" ideal? If that's what you are saying, I think that's an important distinction of MIT's goals for building a class vs. the reality of MIT admission.

No, I think you’re right and MIT, like HYPS, is only shooting for 25% from that 1580 bucket.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

By "they" I don't mean Caltech. I meant DCUM moms ...

CalTech and MIT are the only schools looking to fill 75% of the class from that 1580+ bucket, though. HYPS fill 25% of the class from that bucket, 50% from the 1500-1570 bucket, and 25% from the sub-1500 bucket. So DCUM moms are correct that 1500 or 1520 is the threshold for an unhooked kid to bother applying.

Where are you getting that MIT targets to have 75% of the class as 1580 and over?

My child was told by a recruiter that only 25% of MIT are above 1570.

Or do you just mean MIT is "looking to fill" as in it aspires to have 75% in the 1580 bucket, but the reality is that MIT constantly falls far, far short of this "looking to fill" ideal? If that's what you are saying, I think that's an important distinction of MIT's goals for building a class vs. the reality of MIT admission.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

By "they" I don't mean Caltech. I meant DCUM moms ...

CalTech and MIT are the only schools looking to fill 75% of the class from that 1580+ bucket, though. HYPS fill 25% of the class from that bucket, 50% from the 1500-1570 bucket, and 25% from the sub-1500 bucket. So DCUM moms are correct that 1500 or 1520 is the threshold for an unhooked kid to bother applying.

False. MIT, Caltech, or HYP, all fill about 25% of the class with 1570/1580+.
Caltech 75 percentile is 1570.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

By "they" I don't mean Caltech. I meant DCUM moms ...

CalTech and MIT are the only schools looking to fill 75% of the class from that 1580+ bucket, though. HYPS fill 25% of the class from that bucket, 50% from the 1500-1570 bucket, and 25% from the sub-1500 bucket. So DCUM moms are correct that 1500 or 1520 is the threshold for an unhooked kid to bother applying.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

By "they" I don't mean Caltech. I meant DCUM moms ...

Anonymous wrote:I think all of the top tier (except the UC's) do this in one way or another. I appreciate CalTech being transparent and disclosing it.

They do this on every other country so that everyone knows what schools to apply to. The schools have fairly transparent cutoff scores.

Anonymous wrote:I think all of the top tier (except the UC's) do this in one way or another. I appreciate CalTech being transparent and disclosing it.

Similar to Dartmouth disclosing that people with 1400 and above can perform the work there when they went back to test required. I appreciate it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

Where do they say some a dozen?

Perfect scores are more common than they used to be but there are less than 1000 of them every year. There used to be like 7 of them. You'd make the news in the 1980s of you got a perfect score.

Anonymous wrote:Weird bc my 750 math kid was told thru a coach as part of their version of a preread that they would like a 770 in math.

It may depend on how strong of an athlete your kid is - college teams typically need a certain average. I know at Ivies if you’re one of the best on the team, there’s a lower academic threshold.

I think all of the top tier (except the UC's) do this in one way or another. I appreciate CalTech being transparent and disclosing it.

I'm glad Caltech released this because now I can save my $$ on an application that's just not going to happen. Great school, but not for my kid that's for sure.

Anonymous wrote:two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

lol They also said a perfect score is a dime a dozen.

two thoughts

35 is a lot easier to get than 780, esp for verbal side.

- This busts the myth that everything above a 1500 or 1520 is the same. "A hurdle to pass". Nope they think 780 is higher than 750.

Test scores are predictive of success, even into students' sophomore and junior years," says Tamuz. "So, we don't want to give up on the SAT or ACT."


No more TO!!!

Anonymous wrote:https://www.admissions.caltech.edu/apply/first-year-applicants/standardized-tests/standardized-testing-buckets

Interesting approach. Less stress for kids?

""We feel like we lose a lot of people who self-select out of our pool that we would have wanted to admit." the Institute has typically admitted a handful of students with scores below 750 each year. "

I don't think people self-select out because they don't have the perfect score. They self-select out because CalTech is for students who want to pursue Ph.D. and research.

Unfortunately, a lot of high scorers want a different path, Wall Street, med school, or law school for example.

But good to know that they do differentiate between 790 and 750.