Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:54
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Kids routinely get into Toronto from my kid's DC private with GPAs under 3.5-some as low as 3.3. I don't know how they evaluate applicants but I just looked at the data with college counseling.
Possibly an easier major or going to the other 2 campuses with much lower cutoffs
No, they're definitely going to that main campus. maybe easier major--I don't know what they're studying.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:50
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
A lot of International students. Canada is a young, growing and immigrant friendly country. They take in a lot of smart immigrants each year. The 80k is also spread across 3 campuses. St. George is the one every means when they think about u of T. The other 2 are much easier to get into and are not even in the city of Toronto. The 80k also includes adult education like if you are 35 year old single mom and want to take courses online to become a nurse, they have a robust program for that. Also Toronto is a huge global city, larger than Chicago, Boston, Houston, Dallas and Seattle combined. It’s something so many Americans who live in the suburbs but think they are in the center of the universe can’t comprehend.
This is absurdly false. Toronto's MSA population is slightly smaller than that of Houston. Chicago and Dallas are larger metros. Toronto certainly isn't the size of any two of those cities combined, let alone all of them.
We now have a UofT booster in addition to the STA booster.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:50
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:U of T: top 20. most similar to Cal, Cornell
McGill: top 30. most similar to NYU
It’s not off too much. McGill probably more similar to BU, it doesn’t have stern. UofT engineering is top notch, but outside engineering UofT is not at Cornell level or even Cal level.
UofT: Georgia Tech
McGill: BU
McGill has Desautels. It’s their business school and there is an undergrad program that has a lower acceptance rate than the rest of the school.
My dc is at McGill. For all these people comparing it to US schools, I get the sense they don’t quite appreciate that US schools tend to be softer on students. It is not an easy school.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:46
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:U Toronto is very much a city school and it’s had very real housing issues for students.
I spoke at a conference in Toronto a year or two ago and the hotel was providing longterm housing for students. It was weird.
Toronto is an established city. It’s not like they can throw up a new dorm like an SLAC in a rural area can. Of course they use hotels and converted hotels as student housing. My kid was in a converted hotel room as a freshman. It was great. Private bathroom
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:32
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
A lot of International students. Canada is a young, growing and immigrant friendly country. They take in a lot of smart immigrants each year. The 80k is also spread across 3 campuses. St. George is the one every means when they think about u of T. The other 2 are much easier to get into and are not even in the city of Toronto. The 80k also includes adult education like if you are 35 year old single mom and want to take courses online to become a nurse, they have a robust program for that. Also Toronto is a huge global city, larger than Chicago, Boston, Houston, Dallas and Seattle combined. It’s something so many Americans who live in the suburbs but think they are in the center of the universe can’t comprehend.
A little demographic fact check to comprehend. The City of Toronto is about 3 million with the metropolitan area about 7 million. "Chicago, Boston, Houston Dallas, and Seattle combined" would be nearly 8 million for the city proper populations and about 32 million for the metropolitan areas.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:21
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
A lot of International students. Canada is a young, growing and immigrant friendly country. They take in a lot of smart immigrants each year. The 80k is also spread across 3 campuses. St. George is the one every means when they think about u of T. The other 2 are much easier to get into and are not even in the city of Toronto. The 80k also includes adult education like if you are 35 year old single mom and want to take courses online to become a nurse, they have a robust program for that. Also Toronto is a huge global city, larger than Chicago, Boston, Houston, Dallas and Seattle combined. It’s something so many Americans who live in the suburbs but think they are in the center of the universe can’t comprehend.
This is absurdly false. Toronto's MSA population is slightly smaller than that of Houston. Chicago and Dallas are larger metros. Toronto certainly isn't the size of any two of those cities combined, let alone all of them.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:05
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Kids routinely get into Toronto from my kid's DC private with GPAs under 3.5-some as low as 3.3. I don't know how they evaluate applicants but I just looked at the data with college counseling.
Possibly an easier major or going to the other 2 campuses with much lower cutoffs
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:02
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Kids routinely get into Toronto from my kid's DC private with GPAs under 3.5-some as low as 3.3. I don't know how they evaluate applicants but I just looked at the data with college counseling.
I am the poster from Ontario. Different programs have different standards. I can imagine that the history program (non-honours) in the faculty of arts and sciences would let in students with a 3.5 GPA. That faculty is enormous and the standards are lower for the non-honours programs. That same student would probably not be admitted to the honours program (which is the path to graduate work), engineering or business.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 10:02
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
A lot of International students. Canada is a young, growing and immigrant friendly country. They take in a lot of smart immigrants each year. The 80k is also spread across 3 campuses. St. George is the one every means when they think about u of T. The other 2 are much easier to get into and are not even in the city of Toronto. The 80k also includes adult education like if you are 35 year old single mom and want to take courses online to become a nurse, they have a robust program for that. Also Toronto is a huge global city, larger than Chicago, Boston, Houston, Dallas and Seattle combined. It’s something so many Americans who live in the suburbs but think they are in the center of the universe can’t comprehend.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:57
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Kids routinely get into Toronto from my kid's DC private with GPAs under 3.5-some as low as 3.3. I don't know how they evaluate applicants but I just looked at the data with college counseling.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:56
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
I am from Ontario. Some faculties are huge and have lower cut-offs to apply. The cuf-off mark very much depends on what faculty and program you are applying to. Please also remember that a large portion of the 80,000 are grad students.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:55
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
This. I am from Ontario and my son is a 12th grader applying to engineering programs at Canadian universities. He is not going to apply of U of T engineering because he doesn't meet the cut-off. There is no point.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:52
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
How did they end up with 80,000 students?
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:49
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
You just showed you haven’t done your homework.
Canadian universities have high acceptance rates compared to American colleges b/c they don’t play the game where they tell everyone you have a chance to get in, collect your $95 app fee to raise millions then reject you to flaunt their low acceptance rate. In Canada, they post what grade and score you need to get in, and your high school wouldn’t even let you apply if you don’t meet the criteria. It’s like that in most of the world. Oxbridge does this too. Then you have Northeastern in the U.S. who pretends they are harder to get into than Cambridge. And parents play along so they can brag their kids get into a top school. For U of T that cutoff is typically 93-95/100. And they don’t grade inflate so none of this half the class has 4.0 BS like we do in America. The rest of the world gives out Cs and D’s daily to their kids.
Anonymous
09/12/2025 09:39
Subject: McGill and University of Toronto: if they were in the U.S., where would they rank?
Anonymous wrote:they are mediocre maybe mid-level state schools like Jmu or UMBC, they are very easy to get into and massive not that impressive outside of canada. UVA, UMD, and even Virginia Tech have lower acceptance rates.
this is harsh but it's pretty accurate. for undergrad, there are a lot of better options. for grad school they're phenomenal.