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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

I'm not sure what you're saying isn't true. Personally, I support Israel for a few simple reasons. 1) most importantly, supporting Palestine means supporting a nation that is openly hostile to America, my country. They openly describe us as enemies. From a sheer pragmatic standpoint, it makes no sense to support Palestine. 2) Hamas is using civilians as shields. It's sad. But its not the same as Israel "targeting civilians." 3) I spent years in a war zone. It's hell. Children die. Schools are attacked. Women are murdered or worse. What's happening in Gaza is war. It's just the only war people have become actually conscious of, and they are mistaking it for genocide. But the banality of the evil that is happening there would shock you.

As to the first bolder quote, that’s incorrect and verbatim propaganda from Israel. But even if was true of everyday Palestinians, how on earth could you even blame them? FFS, we are the financial and weapons supplier of the nation that has been trying to eradicate them for 75+ years. Moreover, we are the very reason that the rest of the world is prevented from doing anything to protect them from that protected eradication - we run interference on behalf of Israel at the U.N., we leverage our corrupt State department to designate as FTO and state sponsors of terrorism anyone that the Israeli lobby directs us to … the vast majority of Palestinians don’t hate America, but FFS, they really should for what we’ve done.

As to the second bolded quote, how do you know? Relying on Western media and/or Israeli propaganda, and ignoring the role Israel plays in creating regional disharmony is no way to develop an informed view of the actual facts. How many Palestinians do you personally know? How much time have you spent there to acquire firsthand knowledge of the circumstances?

Without going into this any more forcefully, your post literally reads like garden variety, propagandized talking points curated by pro-Israeli interests. There are many people how view the matter through that lens. That doesn’t mean any of you are seeing clearly what’s actually going on in the ME.

Calling it a genocide is an understatement. It's more appropriate to call it a holocaust.

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Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

I'm not sure what you're saying isn't true. Personally, I support Israel for a few simple reasons. 1) most importantly, supporting Palestine means supporting a nation that is openly hostile to America, my country. They openly describe us as enemies. From a sheer pragmatic standpoint, it makes no sense to support Palestine. 2) Hamas is using civilians as shields. It's sad. But its not the same as Israel "targeting civilians." 3) I spent years in a war zone. It's hell. Children die. Schools are attacked. Women are murdered or worse. What's happening in Gaza is war. It's just the only war people have become actually conscious of, and they are mistaking it for genocide. But the banality of the evil that is happening there would shock you.

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Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

By Israel's own data they are killing more than 84% civilians. This doesn't include those trapped under the rubble or those dying from starvation, disease or lack of medical care. Essentially that means that the civilian casualty rate is well over 90%. If that's not a genocide and extermination campaign then I don't know what is.

Anonymous wrote:No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. .

That’s not true. There was a lot of support for Israel at the beginning. Anyone who protested was called pro terrorist and threatened. Now the support for Israel is understandably dropping. We see the horror, we hear the lies out of Netanyahu. We hear the extreme Israeli leaders claiming that it won’t end until every Gaza resident is dead.

Why would anyone support a country that’s targeting and killing civilians by the thousands with no end in sight.

Bombing hospitals and starving innocent children is not self-defense.

It is not even war.

It is the extermination of a defenseless people, and the destruction of every principle of human rights.

International Association of Genocide Scholars (IAGS) has determined that Israel is committing genocide in Gaza. This is the world’s largest association of genocide scholars, with around 500 experts on the subject including many Holocaust scholars. The consensus was reached by an overwhelming supermajority of the experts.

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Anonymous wrote:No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

So how much is Qatar paying you ?

My values and ethics can't be bought, hasbara propagandist.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

So how much is Qatar paying you ?

No, some people have legitimate concerns about Gaza. I may quibble with their definition of genocide, but it's not inherently antisemitic. However, it seems like a lot of antisemites are coming out of the woodwork with this issue. I had been brainwashed into believing that antisemites were mostly right wing skinhead types, when they are actually suburban white ladies.

Anonymous wrote:No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Oh look, Hasbara posting misinformation in the middle of the night. How bad are the cramps in your hand from constantly copy/pasting lies?

No.

But what’s happening to Gaza isn’t a genocide. It’s a war that Gaza leadership, Hamas, Started. And Gaza is losing.

Not inherently, but it often crosses that line.

Antisemitic

- employing antisemetic tropes to criticize Israel

- talking about "Jews" rather than "Israel" or Israelis"

- implying or outright stating American Jews have some sort of connection or even responsibly in regards to events in the Middle East

I've seen, and reported, all these things multiple times on these boards, and I think pretty much everything I've reported has been taken down

No. But Israeli troll farms try to convince people it is. Use your brain instead.

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Anonymous wrote:No desire to troll. Is a genuine question. This is what recently happened in Spain. They claim it is a genicide and the Israeli government says that it is antisemitism. Just wanted a fresh perspective from the us. Thank you!

Yes you are trolling, and no, your question is not genuine. And yes, in some circumstances, stating that Gaza is genocide is antisemitism. But you are not accepting of contrary opinions being stated. So tell me that I am Jewish (I am not), and include the word "scum" in your response, all for old times' sake.

When someone defends Jews against antisemitism, calling them a Jew who is lying about being Jewish is your attempt to discredit them without engaging with what they are actually saying. This tactic is built on old antisemitic stereotypes that suggest Jews are inherently deceptive or manipulative, so the accusation itself reinforces the prejudice. It also sets up a kind of gatekeeping where only certain Jews are considered authentic and anyone who speaks out against hate is written off as fake. In reality, what you are doing is simply trying to avoid acknowledging antisemitism, and it falls apart once you recognize it for what it is, a deflection and not an argument.

?? I am Jewish. And I believe what Israel is doing in Gaza is horrific and immoral and inhumane. Call it a genocide. Call it war crimes. Honestly, that’s beside the point but please you can’t say I’m antisemitic just bc I don’t agree with Israeli action. Doing so is a deflection and not an argument.