Communism is at least as bad. Truly horrific and easily a much higher death-toll, especially since racism was relatively rare and occurred in the past.

Fascism is Big Labor, Big Business, Big Government working together in support of the state. The fascis is a bundle of sticks, that I think is on US money.

Like Naziism, fascism is just another flavor of communism and socialism.

Anonymous wrote:Fascism killed 25 million people in WWII.

Who did communism kill?


No one.

Holodomor, the great leap forward and the rest never happened. Such a thing must be all made up. Only crazy people would question historical massacres.

Nor did the fascists nationalize industries, and require private industries to work for the benefit of the workers at the states direction.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Is there a system of human governance where nobody dies? In the history of humanity, those in power take what they want and kill for wealth and more power.

Sure. Then maybe we can stop with the "100 million deaths under communism" nonsense? Because at least as many have died under capitalism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Oh yes, communism where everyone will live in a magical utopia with free housing, free healthcare, free education, free childcare, and free everything. That's great on paper. Until reality sets in and someone has to pay for all of the free stuff. No one wants to work hard and no one wants to invent things if the state will always take it. You have zero incentive to do anything other than the bare minimum if you will get the same exact food ration as your lazy neighbor who does half the work. And that's why communism always fails. They have to point guns at people to work agrarian jobs to make sure they can even have enough food.

We will all be oh so great again when 84 year olds are forced to work backbreaking jobs on the farms in 99 degree weather like the Khemer Rouge forced their people to do while facing down the barrel of a gun. Their reward was 400 calories of plain rice to eat per day. But hey, at least the rice was distributed evenly! Never mind the fact that 20% of the entire population was murdered under Pol Pot.

But it wasn't real communism! Lol.

You're really just telling on your own defective nature. That is not the nature of most people. Communism fails because the powers that be can't allow it to succeed. Can't allow the little people to get any fancy ideas.

Really take a minute and consider who benefits from you genuinely believing that a society that shares its wealth and prosperity among the people is somehow the great evil, but living under a system of exploitation, where you sell most of your time to the wealthy, who then steal the surplus value of your labor. Where all resources and necessities are hoarded by the wealthy and sold back to you for a profit. Where you're meant to live in a democratic society, but spend most of your life living under the rule and whims of the c-suite, who are in practice, unaccountable to no one. Who benefits from you believing this system is superior, and that this systemic exploitation is human nature?

Think about times of disaster. What actually happens? People effing share and help each other. Resources get pooled and distributed. THAT is our nature. Not what the psychopaths that run our society tell you to believe.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Oh yes, communism where everyone will live in a magical utopia with free housing, free healthcare, free education, free childcare, and free everything. That's great on paper. Until reality sets in and someone has to pay for all of the free stuff. No one wants to work hard and no one wants to invent things if the state will always take it. You have zero incentive to do anything other than the bare minimum if you will get the same exact food ration as your lazy neighbor who does half the work. And that's why communism always fails. They have to point guns at people to work agrarian jobs to make sure they can even have enough food.

We will all be oh so great again when 84 year olds are forced to work backbreaking jobs on the farms in 99 degree weather like the Khemer Rouge forced their people to do while facing down the barrel of a gun. Their reward was 400 calories of plain rice to eat per day. But hey, at least the rice was distributed evenly! Never mind the fact that 20% of the entire population was murdered under Pol Pot.

But it wasn't real communism! Lol.

+1

The “no real communism” people always sound so uneducated.

Seriously? You truly believe that Maoism was in The Communist Manifesto or that Marx directed future people Like Pol Pot tp embrace forced migration, genocide, etc?

In communism, people own the means of production with little government intervention. Using the name communism in a brutalist regime is not communism.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Is there a system of human governance where nobody dies? In the history of humanity, those in power take what they want and kill for wealth and more power.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Fascism killed 25 million people in WWII.

Who did communism kill?


No one.

Lmao.

Mongolians would like a word.

Is that what your Koch Bros. talking points told you to say?


Figures.

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

No one died under communism drama llama. Settle down.

Anonymous wrote:Fascism killed 25 million people in WWII.

Who did communism kill?


No one.

Lmao.

Mongolians would like a word.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So dumb. China is a one party communism government with huge market forces that derail a theoretical true communist regime.

Same with Russia. It was (is?) a one party system in which the STATE controlled the economy. Under communism, the means and production are owned by the community.

It would be super helpful if some of you took a world history class and bothered to learn definitions.

You need to actually read Marx, and then read the words of both Stalin and Mao. You are profoundly ignorant.

What I really think is that you are a 16-year-old who idealizes Marxism because it sounds nice but who has no conception of history or human nature.

Oh ad hominem attacks. Awesome. Please point out to me where Marx laid the blueprint for the Killing Fields or where he told Mao to form the CCP by combinig Lenin's work and Marxism for China in particular. Oh, don't forget Mao was also a huge fan of anarchism.

Marx may have been predisposed to REVOLUTIONARY VIOLENCE from the people, but not from the state.

Maybe you are the profoundly ignorant one

Fascism killed 25 million people in WWII.

Who did communism kill?


No one.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:I don't think anyone wants to be fascist, it is more of a response to a society collapsing or taking several steps backwards sort of when colonialism/imperialism collapsed in Europe and they could no longer support the monarchies. Maybe some people dream of fascism with their A for anarchy patches sewn on their punk clothing, but other than that.

Uh, anarchy is something different. Fascist dreamers go for SS symbols and swastikas. Or white polo shirts and khakis.

Just saying fascism maybe more prevalent if you take into account other forms. Like punk rock.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Ahhhhh yes.....the tired old argument that the Khemer Rouge, Mao's China, USSR, and North Korea "aren't real Communism!".

We just need a few hundred million more deaths to try out the communist experiment until we get it right.

Womp, womp.

People die everyday under capitalism. How many more millions need to die before it too is considered a failed system?

How many died of covid for profits? How many die in preventable workplace accidents for profits? How many die because they cant afford healthcare or their insurance denies them treatment? How many people starve and die on the streets of exposure because we treat housing and food as an avenue for profit rather than a human right? How many deaths of despair happen everyday due to the weight of living in a cycle of poverty required to sustain the capitalist system? Miss me with the bullpuckey.

Oh yes, communism where everyone will live in a magical utopia with free housing, free healthcare, free education, free childcare, and free everything. That's great on paper. Until reality sets in and someone has to pay for all of the free stuff. No one wants to work hard and no one wants to invent things if the state will always take it. You have zero incentive to do anything other than the bare minimum if you will get the same exact food ration as your lazy neighbor who does half the work. And that's why communism always fails. They have to point guns at people to work agrarian jobs to make sure they can even have enough food.

We will all be oh so great again when 84 year olds are forced to work backbreaking jobs on the farms in 99 degree weather like the Khemer Rouge forced their people to do while facing down the barrel of a gun. Their reward was 400 calories of plain rice to eat per day. But hey, at least the rice was distributed evenly! Never mind the fact that 20% of the entire population was murdered under Pol Pot.

But it wasn't real communism! Lol.

+1

The “no real communism” people always sound so uneducated.

Anonymous wrote:So dumb. China is a one party communism government with huge market forces that derail a theoretical true communist regime.

Same with Russia. It was (is?) a one party system in which the STATE controlled the economy. Under communism, the means and production are owned by the community.

It would be super helpful if some of you took a world history class and bothered to learn definitions.

You need to actually read Marx, and then read the words of both Stalin and Mao. You are profoundly ignorant.

What I really think is that you are a 16-year-old who idealizes Marxism because it sounds nice but who has no conception of history or human nature.