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Anonymous wrote:

Thanks PP for linking. Interesting, except for bread and pasta most of the stuff I eat is in categories 1 and 2. Never would have thought that salt is considered “processed”.

That’s where these lists get a little ridiculous. Humans would literally die without salt. Most of this stuff is fine in moderation. My attitude is that if people ate it in the 19th century (sugar, flour, olive oil,mustard, bacon), it’s probably fine in limited quantities.

I just had salmon and eggplant fitters for lunch, which is considered pretty healthy. But I used breadcrumbs (processed) as binder, olive oil (processed) to fry them, and topped it with a drizzle of a flavored mayonnaise (probably highly processed). By I’m not going to eat just a plain eggplant and unflavored salmon, so I figure this all comes out as a net positive.

Anonymous wrote:

Thanks PP for linking. Interesting, except for bread and pasta most of the stuff I eat is in categories 1 and 2. Never would have thought that salt is considered “processed”.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

Bacon and turkey are NOT ultra processed, and neither is the bread if it does not have additives. If you bought the bread in the regular supermarket aisle is probably is ultra processed.

The most commonly used research definition of ultra processed would put bacon in the processed category, not ultra processed, along with other preserved foods. Bread that has a bunch of additives and artificial ingredients is ultra processed. Turkey (which sounds like it came from a turkey breast and not cold cut) would be unprocessed or minimally processed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

This is the correct answer, and clearly the difference between “processed” and “ultra processed” has not been made clear enough.

I need to see the ingredient list for the bacon. Some are processed, some are ultra-processed.

It depends on your health goals. You diet was good. I have certain restrictions that include limited sodium, so I would have had to pass on the bacon, the lunch meat, and probably the brioche. It’s also possible that your spice blends were sodium bombs. I also feel terrible when I eat wheat, so I personally have to pass on that. High sodium content is one way to hunt out foods with a lot of processing. I tend to be unable to eat just about anything in the center of the grocery store or freezer area, with the exception of frozen fruits and vegetables that don’t come with sauces.

I would however have more protein for breakfast to get you started and more fiber. I would have perhaps made overnight oats from scratch, and made sure to include some nuts, seeds, fruit, and some Greek yogurt (plain, a good quality vanilla, etc) I also don’t think you ate enough. I’d have some more sides. I’d even throw in some potatoes - they have way more nutrients than you think, and are very satiating- I roast them a lot in the air fryer with some low sodium spice blends.

But if your body is doing fine with what you posted, you’re fine.

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

If the turkey was precooked it was likely not an actual turkey breast and was injected with tons of brine.

The turkey, the bread and the bacon too.
Those all contain carcinogens.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

Bacon and turkey are NOT ultra processed, and neither is the bread if it does not have additives. If you bought the bread in the regular supermarket aisle is probably is ultra processed.

The most commonly used research definition of ultra processed would put bacon in the processed category, not ultra processed, along with other preserved foods. Bread that has a bunch of additives and artificial ingredients is ultra processed. Turkey (which sounds like it came from a turkey breast and not cold cut) would be unprocessed or minimally processed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

This is the correct answer, and clearly the difference between “processed” and “ultra processed” has not been made clear enough.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

Bacon and turkey are NOT ultra processed, and neither is the bread if it does not have additives. If you bought the bread in the regular supermarket aisle is probably is ultra processed.

The most commonly used research definition of ultra processed would put bacon in the processed category, not ultra processed, along with other preserved foods. Bread that has a bunch of additives and artificial ingredients is ultra processed. Turkey (which sounds like it came from a turkey breast and not cold cut) would be unprocessed or minimally processed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

Costco almost certainly counts as mass-produced, and they package their bread. According to the NOVA rules, the bread must not be packaged.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

Bacon and turkey are NOT ultra processed, and neither is the bread if it does not have additives. If you bought the bread in the regular supermarket aisle is probably is ultra processed.

The most commonly used research definition of ultra processed would put bacon in the processed category, not ultra processed, along with other preserved foods. Bread that has a bunch of additives and artificial ingredients is ultra processed. Turkey (which sounds like it came from a turkey breast and not cold cut) would be unprocessed or minimally processed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

And sugar is processed but not ultra processed. HFCS is ultra processed.
You could eat a diet that’s 100% lard and it would be minimally processed but not a great diet.
I think it all comes back to the advice which is now decades old — Eat real food, mostly plants.
If you want a more regulated diet, the best one is the MIND diet.

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Anonymous wrote:Here's a link to the turkey breast for a PP - it's really good and convenient

https://www.costcobusinessdelivery.com/kirkland-signature-turkey-breast%2C-oven-browned%2C-4-lb-avg-wt.product.100343513.html

That looks minimally processed.

Thanks for the lnk!

Anonymous wrote:Here's a link to the turkey breast for a PP - it's really good and convenient

https://www.costcobusinessdelivery.com/kirkland-signature-turkey-breast%2C-oven-browned%2C-4-lb-avg-wt.product.100343513.html

That looks minimally processed.

Anonymous wrote:So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.

Bacon and turkey are NOT ultra processed, and neither is the bread if it does not have additives. If you bought the bread in the regular supermarket aisle is probably is ultra processed.

The most commonly used research definition of ultra processed would put bacon in the processed category, not ultra processed, along with other preserved foods. Bread that has a bunch of additives and artificial ingredients is ultra processed. Turkey (which sounds like it came from a turkey breast and not cold cut) would be unprocessed or minimally processed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nova_classification

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Anonymous wrote:I'm confused. Are you getting a stomachache and think it's something you ate yesterday?

Food stays in your digestion tract for up to 72 hrs so it could be anything you ate in the past 3 days.

No, I just keep seeing news reports about cutting out ultra-processed foods and I legitimately find it difficult to figure out what counts in these studies and reports.

I mean because there really isn't one definition and its not, on its own, an indicator of health. Moderation is key.

I personally find it's also better to focus on eating healthier foods that fill you up rather than focusing on restriction.

Here's a link to the turkey breast for a PP - it's really good and convenient

https://www.costcobusinessdelivery.com/kirkland-signature-turkey-breast%2C-oven-browned%2C-4-lb-avg-wt.product.100343513.html

So bacon, turkey, bread are the main UP foods. I was hoping the turkey breast sliced at home and the sourdough multi-grain from the bakery were not ultra processed.