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Anonymous wrote:Can you just feed them saffron strands and have the same effect?

You need the gunmies for the right balance

What do you think needs balanced?

Anonymous wrote:Can you just feed them saffron strands and have the same effect?

You need the gunmies for the right balance

Anonymous wrote:Can you just feed them saffron strands and have the same effect?

Yes! It is even better!

Can you just feed them saffron strands and have the same effect?

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Anonymous wrote:Look, as with any medication/supplement/remedy of any kind, YMMV. We tried a bunch of meds, all of which were largely terrible experiences, and we’re only a few days in, but this is working for us. It may stop working tomorrow! Or work a little, but need to be supplemented by a Rx, who knows? For the moment, though, I’m excited and wanted to share in case others could benefit. And if you actually had googled it, you’d see there are plenty of studies.

It sounds miserable being you.

Im not the one reduced to pushing my snake oil on a SN parents board. That's miserable

Why do you have to be such a b%#ch? If you don’t like a suggestion move on and don’t try it. Parents have been sharing things that work for them longer than you’ve been alive. Saffron is one of the tamest of the “snake oil” suggestions I’ve seen.

No it isnt. Its a very expense waste of hope and money. Do you not see the parents come here in desperation? The parents who dont have the background to realize peer reviewed, placebo controlled research from this nonsense? Parents who "try anything" themselves into the poor house in desperate attempt to help their children whom they love? Parents who roll their eyes at actual therapeutic help because they are tired from all the snake oil down the drain that did nothing- or worse?

Np. I don’t need you to ‘protect’ me from this information with your ‘superior’ medical background. I doubt anyone in dcum does. Let’s advocate for more research and not just shut down conversations between parents experiencing similar struggles because YOU find them unworthy. Please find something more useful to do with your time. If you think op is a scammer then say so and report it to Jeff but don’t keep spewing vitriol on struggling parents -no one needs or wants you to police the discussion.

+1 The shutdown of conversations that one user dislikes is getting really annoying.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, as with any medication/supplement/remedy of any kind, YMMV. We tried a bunch of meds, all of which were largely terrible experiences, and we’re only a few days in, but this is working for us. It may stop working tomorrow! Or work a little, but need to be supplemented by a Rx, who knows? For the moment, though, I’m excited and wanted to share in case others could benefit. And if you actually had googled it, you’d see there are plenty of studies.

It sounds miserable being you.

Im not the one reduced to pushing my snake oil on a SN parents board. That's miserable

Why do you have to be such a b%#ch? If you don’t like a suggestion move on and don’t try it. Parents have been sharing things that work for them longer than you’ve been alive. Saffron is one of the tamest of the “snake oil” suggestions I’ve seen.

No it isnt. Its a very expense waste of hope and money. Do you not see the parents come here in desperation? The parents who dont have the background to realize peer reviewed, placebo controlled research from this nonsense? Parents who "try anything" themselves into the poor house in desperate attempt to help their children whom they love? Parents who roll their eyes at actual therapeutic help because they are tired from all the snake oil down the drain that did nothing- or worse?

Np. I don’t need you to ‘protect’ me from this information with your ‘superior’ medical background. I doubt anyone in dcum does. Let’s advocate for more research and not just shut down conversations between parents experiencing similar struggles because YOU find them unworthy. Please find something more useful to do with your time. If you think op is a scammer then say so and report it to Jeff but don’t keep spewing vitriol on struggling parents -no one needs or wants you to police the discussion.

also- it's not expensive. A jar of gummies that lasts a month (2 gummies/day) is $20. That's a weird thing to say.

Hi- OP again. I can see why some thought I was marketing, but really was just another desperate mom for whom no medication had worked without significant side effects. I'm also someone who's pretty skeptical of the efficacy of supplements in general. As an update, we started with the saffron on Monday. Yesterday (Friday), we felt like we were seeing diminishing returns. Plus, the saffron only helps his hyperactivity; it didn't help with his focus. BUT it seemed to really help his mood. So we had to add back DS's low-dose stimulant, at least for now. I'm also going to add fish oil. As I said, it's not a cure-all, but the impact was significant and that pleasantly surprised me.

I would be more interested in exploring this is OP didn’t sound so much like an AI chatbot. Did a real mom actually write that? It sounds so much like a spam email.

My cabinet is so full with stupid supplements. I wish there was a way to really sort these out.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, as with any medication/supplement/remedy of any kind, YMMV. We tried a bunch of meds, all of which were largely terrible experiences, and we’re only a few days in, but this is working for us. It may stop working tomorrow! Or work a little, but need to be supplemented by a Rx, who knows? For the moment, though, I’m excited and wanted to share in case others could benefit. And if you actually had googled it, you’d see there are plenty of studies.

It sounds miserable being you.

Im not the one reduced to pushing my snake oil on a SN parents board. That's miserable

Why do you have to be such a b%#ch? If you don’t like a suggestion move on and don’t try it. Parents have been sharing things that work for them longer than you’ve been alive. Saffron is one of the tamest of the “snake oil” suggestions I’ve seen.

No it isnt. Its a very expense waste of hope and money. Do you not see the parents come here in desperation? The parents who dont have the background to realize peer reviewed, placebo controlled research from this nonsense? Parents who "try anything" themselves into the poor house in desperate attempt to help their children whom they love? Parents who roll their eyes at actual therapeutic help because they are tired from all the snake oil down the drain that did nothing- or worse?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Look, as with any medication/supplement/remedy of any kind, YMMV. We tried a bunch of meds, all of which were largely terrible experiences, and we’re only a few days in, but this is working for us. It may stop working tomorrow! Or work a little, but need to be supplemented by a Rx, who knows? For the moment, though, I’m excited and wanted to share in case others could benefit. And if you actually had googled it, you’d see there are plenty of studies.

It sounds miserable being you.

Im not the one reduced to pushing my snake oil on a SN parents board. That's miserable

Why do you have to be such a b%#ch? If you don’t like a suggestion move on and don’t try it. Parents have been sharing things that work for them longer than you’ve been alive. Saffron is one of the tamest of the “snake oil” suggestions I’ve seen.

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Anonymous wrote:This has worked for my DD who is 15. It also works for my hot flashes.

We did as much natural as we could. She also takes Barlean's high potency fish oil as well as a high Vit B multiuvitamin and a gummy with magnesium, theanine, zinc, and Vit D.

Definitely better than any stimulant she has tried.

Which gummy and multivatinin are you using?

My teen is very sensitive to certain pills and textures so it's trial and error. She hates hardened or sticky gummies but will take this one. It tastes really good. And I love that it is only 1 a day. She takes this around dinner to calm her from Focalin ER drop and get her ready for bed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DHVQ9XWY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1PWMFDISMISV6&psc=1

The multivitamin is a capsule because most high B vitamins smell terrible. The only thing it doesn't have that I would like is iron, but she loves steak, chicken, eggs, broccoli, shrimp etc.. so I feel like she is getting enough

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLLG833V?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_22#averageCustomerReviewsAnchor

Hope this helps!

My DD is only 10, but puberty is in full swing and we find her Focalin ER has worn off by 2:30/3 because she has to take it so early before school. If we increase her dose it will last a tiny bit longer, but she’s a zombie in the middle part of the day and it affects her appetite too much.

She’s been taking melatonin AT bedtime but there’s always a fight to get the routine started. Will try these magnesium gummies at dinner to see if there’s a difference. I also would like her vitamin D tested as her sister and I are naturally low without supplementation. Makes a big difference in mood!

I’ve hear guafacine at night worked well with Focalin er during the day, but waiting to get more back into the school routine before trying that.

Guafacine can make them really tired the first week so you might want to start it on a 3-4 day time off if possible. I have heard mostly good, but we started with Clonidine instead as her sleep was so bad and it tends to make them a bit drowsier. Before the clonidine, her Apple Watch would beep with heart rates in the 130's during Focalin's second peak and she struggled with going to bed. That has gone away now.

Right now she takes Focalin ER and Wellbutrin in AM and Clonidine and Lamictal in PM and it is by far the best combo we have had in 2 years of trying. Almost to the point we are considering tapering the Focalin away as her ADHD issues are more emotional regulation, impulses, and hyperactivity in the brain (overthinking, overtalking) and I feel like Lamictal has been the savior and a low does of Clonidine has helped with sleep and rolls over during much of the school day to give her that pause to gain a thought before blurting or acting out. And that maybe the Focalin isn't needed as she has always been good with focus, especially when her mind is more at rest.

Good luck!

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has worked for my DD who is 15. It also works for my hot flashes.

We did as much natural as we could. She also takes Barlean's high potency fish oil as well as a high Vit B multiuvitamin and a gummy with magnesium, theanine, zinc, and Vit D.

Definitely better than any stimulant she has tried.

Which gummy and multivatinin are you using?

My teen is very sensitive to certain pills and textures so it's trial and error. She hates hardened or sticky gummies but will take this one. It tastes really good. And I love that it is only 1 a day. She takes this around dinner to calm her from Focalin ER drop and get her ready for bed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DHVQ9XWY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1PWMFDISMISV6&psc=1

The multivitamin is a capsule because most high B vitamins smell terrible. The only thing it doesn't have that I would like is iron, but she loves steak, chicken, eggs, broccoli, shrimp etc.. so I feel like she is getting enough

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLLG833V?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_22#averageCustomerReviewsAnchor

Hope this helps!

My DD is only 10, but puberty is in full swing and we find her Focalin ER has worn off by 2:30/3 because she has to take it so early before school. If we increase her dose it will last a tiny bit longer, but she’s a zombie in the middle part of the day and it affects her appetite too much.

She’s been taking melatonin AT bedtime but there’s always a fight to get the routine started. Will try these magnesium gummies at dinner to see if there’s a difference. I also would like her vitamin D tested as her sister and I are naturally low without supplementation. Makes a big difference in mood!

I’ve hear guafacine at night worked well with Focalin er during the day, but waiting to get more back into the school routine before trying that.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:This has worked for my DD who is 15. It also works for my hot flashes.

We did as much natural as we could. She also takes Barlean's high potency fish oil as well as a high Vit B multiuvitamin and a gummy with magnesium, theanine, zinc, and Vit D.

Definitely better than any stimulant she has tried.

Which gummy and multivatinin are you using?

My teen is very sensitive to certain pills and textures so it's trial and error. She hates hardened or sticky gummies but will take this one. It tastes really good. And I love that it is only 1 a day. She takes this around dinner to calm her from Focalin ER drop and get her ready for bed.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0DHVQ9XWY/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=A1PWMFDISMISV6&psc=1

The multivitamin is a capsule because most high B vitamins smell terrible. The only thing it doesn't have that I would like is iron, but she loves steak, chicken, eggs, broccoli, shrimp etc.. so I feel like she is getting enough

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DLLG833V?ref_=ppx_hzsearch_conn_dt_b_fed_asin_title_22#averageCustomerReviewsAnchor

Hope this helps!

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:It's so. expensive.

That's why they have this grass roots marketing team pushing it.

DP but I recently read the book finally focused by James greenblatt and a lot of the suggestions have been useful. My son is still medicated but medication was not nearly effective enough