Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:35     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with the way MAGAs are approaching this as hunting down immigrants for sport, but there needs to be humane immigration reform. Plenty of people all over the world are in bad situations and would love to live in the US. Laws need to be respected.


The US and mostly Western European countries have historically done real damage to countries in South America and Africa. They are still living in impoverished unstable countries. Same with the Middle East with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Assad in Syria and now Israel working to exterminate a whole group of Palestinians. People who have never known what it feels like to feel safe, to have a real home and a stable job. They will do what they have to keep their families alive. Most of these immigrants have a story to tell. Not all but the stories are heartbreaking.

There was a picture of a Palestinian women holding a boy that might have been about 13 years old with tears brimming around his eyes. I wondered how long before that profound sadness turns to anger and violence. It will be justified but this boy and his peers, if they make it to adulthood, will have a hard time getting people to listen. This will just be another denied holocaust and history books will not be kind to the US.

To OP, good job. If we all do what we can, the small acts of kindness can change people’s lives for the better.


Totally agree with this post. We have always been part of the problem, always. Now we are just blatantly racist and unconstitutional about it.

I support you, OP.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:26     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.


I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.


Aiding and abetting an "illegal alien" (an unauthorized alien) is a federal crime under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 and can result in significant fines and imprisonment. The law prohibits actions such as smuggling, harboring, or transporting unauthorized aliens within the United States, as well as encouraging or inducing them to enter the country. Illegally employing aliens is aiding and abetting.


Do you really think people who are doing the right thing care about this law? The people in European countries who helped hide Jews from the Nazis didn’t let a crazy man’s made up laws deter them from saving people from being tortured and murdered.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:20     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:I don’t agree with the way MAGAs are approaching this as hunting down immigrants for sport, but there needs to be humane immigration reform. Plenty of people all over the world are in bad situations and would love to live in the US. Laws need to be respected.


The US and mostly Western European countries have historically done real damage to countries in South America and Africa. They are still living in impoverished unstable countries. Same with the Middle East with the Taliban in Afghanistan. Assad in Syria and now Israel working to exterminate a whole group of Palestinians. People who have never known what it feels like to feel safe, to have a real home and a stable job. They will do what they have to keep their families alive. Most of these immigrants have a story to tell. Not all but the stories are heartbreaking.

There was a picture of a Palestinian women holding a boy that might have been about 13 years old with tears brimming around his eyes. I wondered how long before that profound sadness turns to anger and violence. It will be justified but this boy and his peers, if they make it to adulthood, will have a hard time getting people to listen. This will just be another denied holocaust and history books will not be kind to the US.

To OP, good job. If we all do what we can, the small acts of kindness can change people’s lives for the better.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:15     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
You pay VERY VERY well in CASH so that income doesn't get reported or taxed by your state or the federal government. The worker gets screwed if he gets hurt because he has no health or disability insurance when working with equipment that could be dangerous to his health. He gets no social security when he gets old and his body is worn down.

There is a chance your gardener actually can work legally in the US but it is a way better to get all you money in cash in the short-term because you don't have to report it. If your Gardner came in the last three years chances are they claimed asylum and can legally work.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:03     Subject: Re:Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.


He would if he could. He's a good man.


He 100% can, so why isn’t he?


He cannot pay federal taxes. He does not have a Social Security number. He pays all other forms of taxes. And the truth is probably with his income he’d get it refunded anyway. He’s not hurting anybody. You do you, I will do me.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 21:02     Subject: Re:Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.


He would if he could. He's a good man.


He 100% can, so why isn’t he?
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:41     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.


I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.


Aiding and abetting an "illegal alien" (an unauthorized alien) is a federal crime under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 and can result in significant fines and imprisonment. The law prohibits actions such as smuggling, harboring, or transporting unauthorized aliens within the United States, as well as encouraging or inducing them to enter the country. Illegally employing aliens is aiding and abetting.


I'm not concerned about me. I'll be fine.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:37     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.


I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.


Aiding and abetting an "illegal alien" (an unauthorized alien) is a federal crime under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 and can result in significant fines and imprisonment. The law prohibits actions such as smuggling, harboring, or transporting unauthorized aliens within the United States, as well as encouraging or inducing them to enter the country. Illegally employing aliens is aiding and abetting.

you would have to prove intent which would be difficult. You have no way of proving knowledge of immigration status.

Also don't be such useless jerk. Landscapers and housekeepers are not going to hurt you fool.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:16     Subject: Re:Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.


He would if he could. He's a good man.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:15     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


He without sin can cast the first stone . . .


Quoting Bible scripture will not protect you if/when ICE comes to arrest you.


Whatever. I'll take the risk. It's worth it to me. I still have a shred of humanity left.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:06     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.


I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.


Aiding and abetting an "illegal alien" (an unauthorized alien) is a federal crime under 8 U.S.C. § 1324 and can result in significant fines and imprisonment. The law prohibits actions such as smuggling, harboring, or transporting unauthorized aliens within the United States, as well as encouraging or inducing them to enter the country. Illegally employing aliens is aiding and abetting.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:04     Subject: Re:Proudly harboring the undocumented
Tax fraud? Shouldn’t he be paying taxes on income and reporting it.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 20:04     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


He without sin can cast the first stone . . .


Quoting Bible scripture will not protect you if/when ICE comes to arrest you.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 19:39     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


Indeed. Are you willing to go to jail for years? When ICE comes, are you going to forcibly resist them? Just because you believe something is morally wrong doesn't mean you get to break the law.


I'm not going to jail. That's ridiculous. And ICE isn't allowed on my property without a warrant, and they don't know -- and can't know -- that he comes here to work because I pay cash.
Anonymous
Post 08/23/2025 19:35     Subject: Proudly harboring the undocumented
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:We have a home in a very red state, and we and the neighbors are all happily harboring an undocumented immigrant from Latin America who does tremendous yardwork for all of us. We pay very very well. And we advise on how to keep their head low and avoid ICE.


I have no qualms about this. What is going on in this country right now is morally wrong. These people work their butts off, are law abiding good people and make our country great. THEY’RE doing that. Not MAGA.


And, you are breaking the law.


The people who harbored Anne Frank also broke the law.


Well, the maga Neo Nazis in Florida want to ban her diary, so problem solved?

https://www.thejewishnews.com/news/anne-franks-diary-schindlers-list-among-titles-at-center-of-major-florida-book-ban-lawsuit/article_9cd3ed40-afe4-11ee-8093-4b3ccbeb69cd.html