Yeah, the weed thing made me lose all respect and I can't get it to jive in my brain with the rest of Heather's uptight demeanour. Her kids hit a certain age and she just seemed to stop caring, parenting or guiding. It seems like every Tom/Dick/Harry sells weed these days.

At least Mauricio never seemed to be anything other than a mellow party-boy, so him smoking weed and acting like an idiot was not surprising. Plus, how on your A-game do you have to be to be a realtor?

The last thing you want is a weed head surgeon getting the munchies or the giggles or trying to get it together after a night of weed as he is trying to tighten up your whatever. He needs to move to Florida to practice medicine with those ethics. Bad advertising but I guess he has enough $ and clients that it doesn't matter if some drop away.

Tamra is as unenjoyable/delusional/unlikeable as Ramona from RHWNY is.

Not sure what secrets Tamra has on Heather or if Heather is getting paid more to engage with Tamra, but I do not know why she is her ride or die apologist.

The one thing I will say about Gretchen is this: she started on the show and clearly was/appeared to be a gold digger. Much older boyfriend who supported her and she lived the high life while he was literally dying...

And over the years she has proved to be quite the hustler when it comes to work. Her makeup, her handbags, she often posts on social media selling this product (clothes) or that thing (high end hotels). I may not appreciate what she's done to her face or how she treated Jeff (orig boyfriend) but I can appreciate her for being a hard worker and bringing in money (esp when that completely redefined who she was).

I have watched this show from the first season and officially am taking a break this season after the first couple of episodes.

Gretchen is awful and like a distorted cartoon character. Jen is same. Her hideous boyfriend. Ugh. Without Tamra these people would have nothing to talk about and the dynamics are just stale. When I realized they were dredging up the Gretchen vs Tamra feud, I was done. Wake me when it's something new. The dynamic where they all hate each other but hang out anyway is just bad TV. It is not believable any of these people are friends. There needs to be more real relationships. Emily and Gina feel like that's it. Everyone else is a strategic alliance.

I like Heather the best and I don't think she even has anyone to bounce off of on this cast. She is definitely on the wrong show.

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Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think Terry is sort of creepy? And what’s up with the marijuana bar at their party? Their son was there and he’s so pampered. You can just tell all those kids grew up with a silver spoon in their mouths.

I think the pot “party favors” (which Heather has done before and I am certain are for a promo - she’s paid or stuff is free for publicity) are gross and highly inappropriate for a surgeon to clearly be getting high. Reminds me of when Mauricio got high on RHoBH and was acting like an idiot.

+1 I hope people boycott Terry as a plastic surgeon.

Anonymous wrote:Does anyone think Terry is sort of creepy? And what’s up with the marijuana bar at their party? Their son was there and he’s so pampered. You can just tell all those kids grew up with a silver spoon in their mouths.

I think the pot “party favors” (which Heather has done before and I am certain are for a promo - she’s paid or stuff is free for publicity) are gross and highly inappropriate for a surgeon to clearly be getting high. Reminds me of when Mauricio got high on RHoBH and was acting like an idiot.

This season is so boring. They keep trying to make drama over the smallest things. And Tamra is so past her expiration date for the show. Hopefully her storming off and saying she quits holds this time.

Anonymous wrote:Agree that Gretchen looks wiggly. With all her religion-talk, her god-helmet reminds me of cult-leader Gwen Shamblin.

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Does anyone think Terry is sort of creepy? And what’s up with the marijuana bar at their party? Their son was there and he’s so pampered. You can just tell all those kids grew up with a silver spoon in their mouths.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst book was Gretchen here… Top right.

https://www.bigblondehair.com/character/gretchen-rossi/

It’s like a 2 year old’s dress up look when she think she looks like a fancy adult. It’s a cheap looking dress and the hair is awful. She ruined her top lip and looks terrible and it’s kinda sad hearing her say to the camera she hasn’t aged at all when she absolutely has.

+1. She used to have a normal/thin upper lip that wouldn't close so she would mispronounce words ('sunthing' instead of 'something' for example) but now the area above her lip is so long and her lip is immobile/thick and looks so strange. She is the IRL version of 'house bunny'- the playboy bunny stuck int he 90s who got old but is still rocking the same look. I think the look is the same, but obviously she has aged.

I disagree with OP about Jersey though- they are right in line with OC but strangely tacky with new/obviously branded clothing or head to toe commitments to bad outfits/brands, but yet also strangely out of date considering they are wanting to appear to dress to the nines.

Gretchen also claims to not have had any work done - this is obviously not true as her face barely moves.

She actually said she had had no surgery, which I thought was a very careful way of saying it. She's CLEARLY had work done.

Yes I think she said she didn’t have surgery, but very clearly fillers and Botox.

Agree that Gretchen looks wiggly. With all her religion-talk, her god-helmet reminds me of cult-leader Gwen Shamblin.

Anonymous wrote:I've always wondered if Gretchen was wearing full on wigs. I know most of the women have extensions but her hair seems more wiggy to me.

RHOC is my favorite franchise but I don't look to any of these women for fashion advice. I also think the RHOC look is so Orange County specific that they look "normal" to each other. We're living in wild times!

Yes! Gretchen has to be wearing a wig. The color, the texture. It just looks so fake!

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Anonymous wrote:Also, it’s funny how Heather used to get so offended by Kelly’s use of the c word, but when Tamra says it she doesn’t bat an eye.

Because with Kelly, it was low base BULLSHIT!!! 😂😂

Fancypants needs to stop defending Tamra. She was absolutely ridiculous trying to tell Jen that Tamra had changed.

Agreed. And thank you for calling her Fancypants. I really do wonder why she's been defending her- there are the rumors that she wants to upgrade to RHOBH and maybe she thinks this is the way to do it? I don't get it.

So far this season has been super boring. I can't figure out whether Katie is the Monica of the OC or if they're setting her up. She seems to have said more than she should have but either she's just been dumb enough to get caught or they're making stuff up.

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Anonymous wrote:The worst book was Gretchen here… Top right.

https://www.bigblondehair.com/character/gretchen-rossi/

It’s like a 2 year old’s dress up look when she think she looks like a fancy adult. It’s a cheap looking dress and the hair is awful. She ruined her top lip and looks terrible and it’s kinda sad hearing her say to the camera she hasn’t aged at all when she absolutely has.

+1. She used to have a normal/thin upper lip that wouldn't close so she would mispronounce words ('sunthing' instead of 'something' for example) but now the area above her lip is so long and her lip is immobile/thick and looks so strange. She is the IRL version of 'house bunny'- the playboy bunny stuck int he 90s who got old but is still rocking the same look. I think the look is the same, but obviously she has aged.

I disagree with OP about Jersey though- they are right in line with OC but strangely tacky with new/obviously branded clothing or head to toe commitments to bad outfits/brands, but yet also strangely out of date considering they are wanting to appear to dress to the nines.

Gretchen also claims to not have had any work done - this is obviously not true as her face barely moves.

She actually said she had had no surgery, which I thought was a very careful way of saying it. She's CLEARLY had work done.

Anonymous wrote:I've always wondered if Gretchen was wearing full on wigs. I know most of the women have extensions but her hair seems more wiggy to me.

RHOC is my favorite franchise but I don't look to any of these women for fashion advice. I also think the RHOC look is so Orange County specific that they look "normal" to each other. We're living in wild times!

It does look fake. Also so much makeup.

I've always wondered if Gretchen was wearing full on wigs. I know most of the women have extensions but her hair seems more wiggy to me.

RHOC is my favorite franchise but I don't look to any of these women for fashion advice. I also think the RHOC look is so Orange County specific that they look "normal" to each other. We're living in wild times!