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Anonymous wrote:Basically, at the more selective schools, they recognize that they can't put excessive requirements on athletes. They treat them foremost as students. This is why for the most part the Ivy league (even though DI) is not a powerhouse conference. If you want to play/compete, but don't want to be "owned" by the university, an Ivy is a great choice if possible (I recognize not all students can meet the academic threshold) or a D3. The guidance the OP gave really applies to the "Power" conferences (SEC, ACC, Big whatever, etc.)

Explain Stanford then. It's one of the most decorated universities in the US.

Yes, but Stanford is in the ACC, not the Ivy League.

Your conditional was "more selective schools," not ivy league.

Ok. You got me! Selective private D1 schools minus Stanford and Duke.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basically, at the more selective schools, they recognize that they can't put excessive requirements on athletes. They treat them foremost as students. This is why for the most part the Ivy league (even though DI) is not a powerhouse conference. If you want to play/compete, but don't want to be "owned" by the university, an Ivy is a great choice if possible (I recognize not all students can meet the academic threshold) or a D3. The guidance the OP gave really applies to the "Power" conferences (SEC, ACC, Big whatever, etc.)

Explain Stanford then. It's one of the most decorated universities in the US.

Yes, but Stanford is in the ACC, not the Ivy League.

Your conditional was "more selective schools," not ivy league.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Basically, at the more selective schools, they recognize that they can't put excessive requirements on athletes. They treat them foremost as students. This is why for the most part the Ivy league (even though DI) is not a powerhouse conference. If you want to play/compete, but don't want to be "owned" by the university, an Ivy is a great choice if possible (I recognize not all students can meet the academic threshold) or a D3. The guidance the OP gave really applies to the "Power" conferences (SEC, ACC, Big whatever, etc.)

Explain Stanford then. It's one of the most decorated universities in the US.

Yes, but Stanford is in the ACC, not the Ivy League.

Anonymous wrote:Basically, at the more selective schools, they recognize that they can't put excessive requirements on athletes. They treat them foremost as students. This is why for the most part the Ivy league (even though DI) is not a powerhouse conference. If you want to play/compete, but don't want to be "owned" by the university, an Ivy is a great choice if possible (I recognize not all students can meet the academic threshold) or a D3. The guidance the OP gave really applies to the "Power" conferences (SEC, ACC, Big whatever, etc.)

Explain Stanford then. It's one of the most decorated universities in the US.

Basically, at the more selective schools, they recognize that they can't put excessive requirements on athletes. They treat them foremost as students. This is why for the most part the Ivy league (even though DI) is not a powerhouse conference. If you want to play/compete, but don't want to be "owned" by the university, an Ivy is a great choice if possible (I recognize not all students can meet the academic threshold) or a D3. The guidance the OP gave really applies to the "Power" conferences (SEC, ACC, Big whatever, etc.)

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Anonymous wrote:These are all good points, but they're all impacted by both sport and school, especially since money is not relevant to all schools (Ivys, D3 theoretically). The issue with major is also impacted significantly by school. The Ivys and the like do not put restrictions on major, and in fact, have more restrictions on when/how much athletes can practice.

Could you say more about this? My DC wants to be a college athlete but I’m a little concerned it is only four years whereas the major can affect employment years to come.

(Not OP)

A significant percentage of college athletes quit the team after just one year. However, this may be more common for non-scholarship athletes than for those relying on an athletic scholarship to pay for their education.

This is all very relevant to D1, but it a lot of it does not apply to D3, just so folks are aware.

There are very few perks like help with registration, no massages (unless it’s needed therapy), no tutors (but there is required study hall), no laundry service, no special housing or dining options. There isn’t any money so you can’t really negotiate, though you can negotiate academic merit money, like everyone else.

The issue of time and major is still something to think about but less cut and dry. My baseball playing son can major in anything he wants and can take a semester abroad. He has to be able to handle the load and figure out conflicts, though.

And he is so happy. He plays the sport he loves every day and gets an education. It’s the right fit.

Anonymous wrote:These are all good points, but they're all impacted by both sport and school, especially since money is not relevant to all schools (Ivys, D3 theoretically). The issue with major is also impacted significantly by school. The Ivys and the like do not put restrictions on major, and in fact, have more restrictions on when/how much athletes can practice.

Could you say more about this? My DC wants to be a college athlete but I’m a little concerned it is only four years whereas the major can affect employment years to come.

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Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all the info. Curious to know which major choices won't be a good idea for a full-time athlete. I assume the work load would be too much to handle?

two schools have completely shutdown engineering but were fine with business. one school said it was hard to get engineering classes on top of the sports schedule but they would work with our child if that was desired major. it surprised me a little because it is not some niche major.

Lab sciences are not going to happen. A professor is not going to reschedule just cause your DC is an athlete, so you have to be realistic-sociology, business, etc. Easy majors.

True experience from last fall: son was given a lab "suitcase" to take with fire an extended away set of gangs. D1 engineer. He set this up in the hotel and did his work. There ia a lit of down. Time and they don't spend it partying.

My kid is a d1 engineering major at an acc school. Roommate is pre med.

Lots of perks including laundry, special dining hall, first dibs at class and housing picks. Mental and physical health support.

The only time we have heard of major restrictions was from football players.

Anonymous wrote:Sport is track and field. So it is straightforward in the sense that it is about times/distance.

Thank you for sharing.

Do T&F athletes train throughout the entire school year or do they have down time during which they can take a more intense course-load ?

These are all good points, but they're all impacted by both sport and school, especially since money is not relevant to all schools (Ivys, D3 theoretically). The issue with major is also impacted significantly by school. The Ivys and the like do not put restrictions on major, and in fact, have more restrictions on when/how much athletes can practice.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Thanks for all the info. Curious to know which major choices won't be a good idea for a full-time athlete. I assume the work load would be too much to handle?

two schools have completely shutdown engineering but were fine with business. one school said it was hard to get engineering classes on top of the sports schedule but they would work with our child if that was desired major. it surprised me a little because it is not some niche major.

Lab sciences are not going to happen. A professor is not going to reschedule just cause your DC is an athlete, so you have to be realistic-sociology, business, etc. Easy majors.

Also, they may ask your student to retake a perfectly good SAT score to try to raise it because other recruits they know aren’t able to get an increased SAT score. We learned that one recently.

Sport is track and field. So it is straightforward in the sense that it is about times/distance.