Anonymous wrote:I guess none of y'all are in the last boarding group with these worries that "the people in the back will use all the overhead space." Because guess what, if you board last now, the people who got on the plane first...use all the overhead space. This is a not enough space issue, I don't get why boarding from the rear would make it worse.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually there have a bunch of studies done that the best thing to do is board staggered rows at a time. Ie: you don’t want 25, 24, and 23 all boarding together. You want 25, 22, and 19 boarding, giving them all enough room to get situated. Then 24, 21, 18 and so on. I’m not sure of the exact spacing but it was something like this.
Anyway, no airline does it. And as someone who checks bags, don’t even get me started on the time wasted by carryon luggage.
While this carry-on nonsense was started by the airlines who decided that you couldn't check bags anymore without paying a fee.
You pay a fee to carryon your bag too. The cheapest fare doesn’t include it usually. You pay for everything one way or another; don’t be fooled. Carryon luggage is why it takes so long to get on and off planes.its also why we have so little headroom.
What airlines are you flying? All of the major carriers include a carryon even in their basic fares.
United and JetBlue don’t allow carryons with their basic fare. You must not fly much.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually there have a bunch of studies done that the best thing to do is board staggered rows at a time. Ie: you don’t want 25, 24, and 23 all boarding together. You want 25, 22, and 19 boarding, giving them all enough room to get situated. Then 24, 21, 18 and so on. I’m not sure of the exact spacing but it was something like this.
Anyway, no airline does it. And as someone who checks bags, don’t even get me started on the time wasted by carryon luggage.
While this carry-on nonsense was started by the airlines who decided that you couldn't check bags anymore without paying a fee.
You pay a fee to carryon your bag too. The cheapest fare doesn’t include it usually. You pay for everything one way or another; don’t be fooled. Carryon luggage is why it takes so long to get on and off planes.its also why we have so little headroom.
What airlines are you flying? All of the major carriers include a carryon even in their basic fares.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually there have a bunch of studies done that the best thing to do is board staggered rows at a time. Ie: you don’t want 25, 24, and 23 all boarding together. You want 25, 22, and 19 boarding, giving them all enough room to get situated. Then 24, 21, 18 and so on. I’m not sure of the exact spacing but it was something like this.
Anyway, no airline does it. And as someone who checks bags, don’t even get me started on the time wasted by carryon luggage.
While this carry-on nonsense was started by the airlines who decided that you couldn't check bags anymore without paying a fee.
You pay a fee to carryon your bag too. The cheapest fare doesn’t include it usually. You pay for everything one way or another; don’t be fooled. Carryon luggage is why it takes so long to get on and off planes.its also why we have so little headroom.
What airlines are you flying? All of the major carriers include a carryon even in their basic fares.
Anonymous wrote:People in back will use all the overhead bin space. So instead, we board by "status" to ensure frequent flyers get overhead bin space.
There have been actual experiments with boarding a plane. Unexpectedly, random boarding is more efficient than back to front.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually there have a bunch of studies done that the best thing to do is board staggered rows at a time. Ie: you don’t want 25, 24, and 23 all boarding together. You want 25, 22, and 19 boarding, giving them all enough room to get situated. Then 24, 21, 18 and so on. I’m not sure of the exact spacing but it was something like this.
Anyway, no airline does it. And as someone who checks bags, don’t even get me started on the time wasted by carryon luggage.
While this carry-on nonsense was started by the airlines who decided that you couldn't check bags anymore without paying a fee.
You pay a fee to carryon your bag too. The cheapest fare doesn’t include it usually. You pay for everything one way or another; don’t be fooled. Carryon luggage is why it takes so long to get on and off planes.its also why we have so little headroom.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They used to…then they started giving boarding perks for mileage status, selling seat selection, offering discount economy which boards later, etc.
Also, you have to really crack down on people bringing oversized carryons and what not or all the overhead space will be taken before the first several rows of economy get to board.
Fee for carryon, free checked bags. Easy.
Well OK….but no airline will do that and it will make check in a nightmare. Not to mention you need the entire industry to agree to it.
Why would check in be a nightmare?
I think everything would operate more smoothly if people weren’t carting all their luggage all over the airport, let alone clogging up the aisles during actual boarding.
Because everyone on the plane is checking their bags. I guess if the airline doubles their check in staff or figures out a self-serve option…but they won’t do this when now they receive $0 for checked bags and have to increase their employee costs.
Huh? Checked bags aren’t free now and there is a self serve option. Do you fly at all???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They used to…then they started giving boarding perks for mileage status, selling seat selection, offering discount economy which boards later, etc.
Also, you have to really crack down on people bringing oversized carryons and what not or all the overhead space will be taken before the first several rows of economy get to board.
Fee for carryon, free checked bags. Easy.
Well OK….but no airline will do that and it will make check in a nightmare. Not to mention you need the entire industry to agree to it.
Why would check in be a nightmare?
I think everything would operate more smoothly if people weren’t carting all their luggage all over the airport, let alone clogging up the aisles during actual boarding.
Because everyone on the plane is checking their bags. I guess if the airline doubles their check in staff or figures out a self-serve option…but they won’t do this when now they receive $0 for checked bags and have to increase their employee costs.
Huh? Checked bags aren’t free now and there is a self serve option. Do you fly at all???
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They used to…then they started giving boarding perks for mileage status, selling seat selection, offering discount economy which boards later, etc.
Also, you have to really crack down on people bringing oversized carryons and what not or all the overhead space will be taken before the first several rows of economy get to board.
Fee for carryon, free checked bags. Easy.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They used to…then they started giving boarding perks for mileage status, selling seat selection, offering discount economy which boards later, etc.
Also, you have to really crack down on people bringing oversized carryons and what not or all the overhead space will be taken before the first several rows of economy get to board.
Fee for carryon, free checked bags. Easy.
Well OK….but no airline will do that and it will make check in a nightmare. Not to mention you need the entire industry to agree to it.
Why would check in be a nightmare?
I think everything would operate more smoothly if people weren’t carting all their luggage all over the airport, let alone clogging up the aisles during actual boarding.
Because everyone on the plane is checking their bags. I guess if the airline doubles their check in staff or figures out a self-serve option…but they won’t do this when now they receive $0 for checked bags and have to increase their employee costs.
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:They used to…then they started giving boarding perks for mileage status, selling seat selection, offering discount economy which boards later, etc.
Also, you have to really crack down on people bringing oversized carryons and what not or all the overhead space will be taken before the first several rows of economy get to board.
Fee for carryon, free checked bags. Easy.
Well OK….but no airline will do that and it will make check in a nightmare. Not to mention you need the entire industry to agree to it.
Why would check in be a nightmare?
I think everything would operate more smoothly if people weren’t carting all their luggage all over the airport, let alone clogging up the aisles during actual boarding.