Anonymous wrote:
I dont get it.

H1B has NOTHING to do with filling skilled labor.

2 questions I challenge readers to answer ...

1. how could we have a skills shortage for over 35 years?

H1B was created by Bush Immigration act 1990 to address a mythical skills shortage, but that was the propaganda, it really was created to reduce salaries for Masters and PHds .

2. why are H1B visas allocated randomly, why not allocate visas based on salary, since the higher salary would be for the most desired skills?

this was recommended and almost implemented in 2021 but the industry roared about this, and it was ignored by Biden/Harris. The law needs to require that aliens be paid 150% of the normal wage for any of these jobs. a measure like this was adopted in Australia and it pretty much killed the desire for an alien workforce.

https://cis.org/Law/How-Many-Americans-Will-Companies-Missed-Out-H1B-Lottery-Hire

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

Awwww let me guess, either you or your kid could not get the job you wanted because there was someone smarter and more qualified than you (or your kid) that got it (more/better work/internship experience, higher ranked university etc). And rather than thinking "hmmmm how can I become a stronger candidate" you blame international students for your (or your kids) failure.

Pathetic. How about you try and compete in the market rather than expecting to be handed the good jobs just because you were born here...

This is one area where the maga base and the dem base have a ton of overlap. Not really a ton of people in favor of giving good paying jobs to foreigners, except the tech billionaires. But everyone hates them now.

DP. Agreed. And can someone explain why an American born citizen wouldn’t get preferential consideration in their home country? I mean — doesn’t the federal government give hiring preference to citizens that have already served in some capacity? Why not incentivize corporations to do the same?

Due to visa policies Americans already get preferential treatment by default (1 year Opt that then require H1b lottery, risky to hire).

But more specifically, as someone hiring to fill a need, why would I care if someone is US born or not. I am looking for the best candidate, if that happens to be someone US born, great, if not, that's completely fine as well. Employers want the best candidate, not someone who feels entitled to the job just because they were born here.

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

Awwww let me guess, either you or your kid could not get the job you wanted because there was someone smarter and more qualified than you (or your kid) that got it (more/better work/internship experience, higher ranked university etc). And rather than thinking "hmmmm how can I become a stronger candidate" you blame international students for your (or your kids) failure.

Pathetic. How about you try and compete in the market rather than expecting to be handed the good jobs just because you were born here...

This is one area where the maga base and the dem base have a ton of overlap. Not really a ton of people in favor of giving good paying jobs to foreigners, except the tech billionaires. But everyone hates them now.

DP. Agreed. And can someone explain why an American born citizen wouldn’t get preferential consideration in their home country? I mean — doesn’t the federal government give hiring preference to citizens that have already served in some capacity? Why not incentivize corporations to do the same?

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

Awwww let me guess, either you or your kid could not get the job you wanted because there was someone smarter and more qualified than you (or your kid) that got it (more/better work/internship experience, higher ranked university etc). And rather than thinking "hmmmm how can I become a stronger candidate" you blame international students for your (or your kids) failure.

Pathetic. How about you try and compete in the market rather than expecting to be handed the good jobs just because you were born here...

This is one area where the maga base and the dem base have a ton of overlap. Not really a ton of people in favor of giving good paying jobs to foreigners, except the tech billionaires. But everyone hates them now.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

Awwww let me guess, either you or your kid could not get the job you wanted because there was someone smarter and more qualified than you (or your kid) that got it (more/better work/internship experience, higher ranked university etc). And rather than thinking "hmmmm how can I become a stronger candidate" you blame international students for your (or your kids) failure.

Pathetic. How about you try and compete in the market rather than expecting to be handed the good jobs just because you were born here...

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

Awwww let me guess, either you or your kid could not get the job you wanted because there was someone smarter and more qualified than you (or your kid) that got it (more/better work/internship experience, higher ranked university etc). And rather than thinking "hmmmm how can I become a stronger candidate" you blame international students for your (or your kids) failure.

Pathetic. How about you try and compete in the market rather than expecting to be handed the good jobs just because you were born here...

Anonymous wrote:No more international college students graduating into jobs they should go back

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Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

Independent leaning Democrat voter over here who agrees with everything you wrote. I've been saying this for at least two decades

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

What are Indian Bodyshops? I’ve never heard that term

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

Anonymous wrote:

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”

Why are Democrats so afraid of helping US workers? Repeal H1B, repeal OPT. Stop the exploitation of US citizens so that big tech can get richer.

I will add my own experience.

In 80's and 90's I was able to hire African Americans from 2 year schools or community colleges, train them to be testers or developers.  Almost all were successful and were launched into successful careers.

Now I am forced to hire H1Bs from Indian Bodyshops.  We do NOT hire entry level with intent to train.  We hire 15 H1Bs with the intent to fire 33% and keep the other 67% for 2 years and then fire and start over.   It is a way to replace US workers with cheap desperate guest workers.

And the Indian Bodyshops are the most racist firms in America. They have no african americans and few hispanics. And they NEVER recruit from HBCs.  Never. 

Add to this the millions of low wage workers allowed in from illegal immigration, that take low wage jobs, and impact African Americans directly.  

The single best policy for African American workers is to STOP ALL IMMIGRATION.  Force US Businesses to hire from US citizens.  

But for DCUM and Democrats this is heresy.

I just don’t get it.

Anonymous wrote:Damnit I hate when Vance says something I actually agree with. Insanity to still be handing out H1Bs for CS work right now given the layoffs and difficulty of CS majors in finding jobs. Tech firms can do some internal training if they need to bridge skill gaps - just like most other companies do.

https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-issues-warning-h1-b-visa-immigration-2103296?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Facebook&fbclid=IwY2xjawLu_1FleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHggVzornDQc4-zR77B62fK6CwhsrSFtzDz3qlOpfStRtz8ZMeUVEIw5KIH2C_aem_039eRMW6a8E42zd4am4GBQ#Echobox=1753351866

Vance: "You see some big tech companies where they'll lay off 9,000 workers, and then they'll apply for a bunch of overseas visas. And I sort of wonder; that doesn't totally make sense to me.“

From article…
“Microsoft is facing mounting scrutiny over its use of the H-1B visa program after announcing a wave of layoffs in July that will impact approximately 9,000 employees globally.

The latest cuts, affecting about 4 percent of the company's total workforce, follow two earlier rounds in May and June, which together eliminated around 8,000 positions. In total, Microsoft has laid off nearly 16,000 employees so far this year, out of its global headcount of 228,000.

In the aftermath of the layoffs, social media posts began circulating on X, formerly Twitter, alleging that Microsoft has submitted applications for more than 6,000 H-1B visas since October, the start of the current fiscal year. While that specific figure has not been independently verified, official data shows that Microsoft filed 9,491 H-1B applications during the previous fiscal year, all of which were approved.”