Anonymous
07/22/2025 22:17
Subject: Are there an excessive number of scratches for NVSL IAS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:
I know that there are always scratches for Futures, but there seems like a lot more this year. Are there other big meets happening? More NVSL fast swimmers than most years?
Also, for some of these teams, it does not matter if you swam divisionals - you would be the only kid to make all stars. But do you think on teams that have multiple kids in the running there were kids who did not swim divisionals so a teammate had a shot?
No. Lots of top swimmer still swam at divisionals even when they knew they would not swim at all stars due to bigger meets happening he same weekend.
And that's because Divisionals matter. If a kid wants to make IAS, s/he had plenty of A meets during which to make the qualifying time.
For NVSL, divisionals is not a team meet (we covered this ad nauseum in previous threads). The only way to make All Stars in the NVSL is to swim in the top 18 at divisionals (or 19+ should swimmers in the top 18 scratch).
Anonymous
07/22/2025 21:59
Subject: Are there an excessive number of scratches for NVSL IAS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually, not as many scratches in 15-18 girls due to ISCA Elite Showcase being a week later this year. It doesn’t start until next Tuesday so swimmers can do both this year.
ISCA is a Mickey Mouse meet. Any of the good swimmers are at Futures this week.
Easy my kid will do the Micky mouse meet next year at age 11..
ICSA is not a fast meet. It is a great opportunity for smaller clubs to give their swimmers a travel meet.
Futures and NCSA are this weekend. Every fast kid is going to one or the other of these meets. LOTS of scratches.
Not true. While Futures is in its own category ISCA and NCSA have been comparable in multiple age groups for years.
LIAC participated in summer ISCA last year and they have many of the top LC girls on the East Coast.
Um a simple Meet Mobile search shows they did not..
Also if they were comparable meets, why would one of the big teams in this area being going to both meets where all their best kids are going to NCSA’s and all their developmental/mid-level kids to ISCA?
Anonymous
07/22/2025 21:45
Subject: Are there an excessive number of scratches for NVSL IAS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually, not as many scratches in 15-18 girls due to ISCA Elite Showcase being a week later this year. It doesn’t start until next Tuesday so swimmers can do both this year.
ISCA is a Mickey Mouse meet. Any of the good swimmers are at Futures this week.
Easy my kid will do the Micky mouse meet next year at age 11..
ICSA is not a fast meet. It is a great opportunity for smaller clubs to give their swimmers a travel meet.
Futures and NCSA are this weekend. Every fast kid is going to one or the other of these meets. LOTS of scratches.
Not true. While Futures is in its own category ISCA and NCSA have been comparable in multiple age groups for years.
LIAC participated in summer ISCA last year and they have many of the top LC girls on the East Coast.
Anonymous
07/22/2025 20:02
Subject: Are there an excessive number of scratches for NVSL IAS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually, not as many scratches in 15-18 girls due to ISCA Elite Showcase being a week later this year. It doesn’t start until next Tuesday so swimmers can do both this year.
This is not a meet that factors much. Please do not put it in the same realm as Futures.
Facts. ISCA is only a money siphoning meet that come local club teams go to because they are friends with the organizer and is a way to stuff his pockets with cash.
Why all the hate? It's a fun, fast meet and no one is forcing you to send your kids. No, it's not as fast as Futures but it's sure a step up from IAS, which factors not at all
Anonymous
07/22/2025 19:57
Subject: Are there an excessive number of scratches for NVSL IAS?
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:Actually, not as many scratches in 15-18 girls due to ISCA Elite Showcase being a week later this year. It doesn’t start until next Tuesday so swimmers can do both this year.
This is not a meet that factors much. Please do not put it in the same realm as Futures.
Facts. ISCA is only a money siphoning meet that come local club teams go to because they are friends with the organizer and is a way to stuff his pockets with cash.