Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 14:19     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is such a tough commute for everyone, OP. I think you're right to look for alternatives. But I also think you did a great job finding good schools for your kids with the information you had at the time.

- I think it's going to be harder to find a "good" HS alternative than it is to find a "good" elementary school alternative

- That said, you want to do your best to get your younger child into a "good" middle school pathway too

- I think ideally you'd want to find a high school that is reasonable for your older child to commute to on their own and an elementary school that is reasonable for you to commute with your younger child to.

- I think the next best option is to find two schools in close enough proximity that you can reasonably commute with them both.

Some ideas:

- Eastern, KIPP Legacy, Friendship, Thurgood for your older child to commute to themselves. All have short wait lists and a decent cohort of students passing standardized tests. Definitely ask around the neighborhood for recommendations

- Sojourner Truth is in close proximity to Stokes Brookland and is fairly well regarded

- Thomson is well-liked by families there, short waitlist, feeds into one of the better middle schools, and is sort-of on the way to MacArthur


I think that High School is more important socially and that keeping the Sophomore in the same school is a major factor. And the Sophomore really can commute on their own, so that shouldn't be as big of a factor. This, of course, depends on the kid and their relationships. If they don't make friends and hate the school, by all means find an alternative. But if they like MacArthur, I see no reason to move them.

Getting the younger child into a good middle school is, indeed, pretty important. I wonder if getting into one of the hill middles at 5th grade might be a good call to assure a decent middle school track? I live fairly far from there, so it's not my thing, but my kid is entering 5th this year, so I know there's a big shuffle at that grade.


OP here…. Thank you for this. This would be her first year at McA as we are new to DC. I’m seriously thinking about middle high and if that commute to DCI is gonna make sense. We are waitlisted for Hyde which would make sense for proximity to McA.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 12:56     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:That is such a tough commute for everyone, OP. I think you're right to look for alternatives. But I also think you did a great job finding good schools for your kids with the information you had at the time.

- I think it's going to be harder to find a "good" HS alternative than it is to find a "good" elementary school alternative

- That said, you want to do your best to get your younger child into a "good" middle school pathway too

- I think ideally you'd want to find a high school that is reasonable for your older child to commute to on their own and an elementary school that is reasonable for you to commute with your younger child to.

- I think the next best option is to find two schools in close enough proximity that you can reasonably commute with them both.

Some ideas:

- Eastern, KIPP Legacy, Friendship, Thurgood for your older child to commute to themselves. All have short wait lists and a decent cohort of students passing standardized tests. Definitely ask around the neighborhood for recommendations

- Sojourner Truth is in close proximity to Stokes Brookland and is fairly well regarded

- Thomson is well-liked by families there, short waitlist, feeds into one of the better middle schools, and is sort-of on the way to MacArthur


I think that High School is more important socially and that keeping the Sophomore in the same school is a major factor. And the Sophomore really can commute on their own, so that shouldn't be as big of a factor. This, of course, depends on the kid and their relationships. If they don't make friends and hate the school, by all means find an alternative. But if they like MacArthur, I see no reason to move them.

Getting the younger child into a good middle school is, indeed, pretty important. I wonder if getting into one of the hill middles at 5th grade might be a good call to assure a decent middle school track? I live fairly far from there, so it's not my thing, but my kid is entering 5th this year, so I know there's a big shuffle at that grade.


The commute between MacArthur and Hillcrest via transit is probably a solid hour and a half. Personally I would have hated having to rely on my parents to get to/from school in high school, but it's the only reasonable choice if they go to MacArthur. Commute/lack of autonomy would be my main motivation to pick a different high school.

All things considered, if I were in this situation I'd probably opt for MacArthur and Thomson and try the 5th grade lottery for a Hardy/MacArthur feeder and/or BASIS. If that didn't pan out, Thomson/John Francis is still a decent pathway.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 12:33     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Check out this thread about switching at 5th:
https://www.dcurbanmom.com/jforum/posts/list/1274329.page

I don't think you'll get in for this school year, but making the right choices for next year's lottery will be important.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 12:28     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:That is such a tough commute for everyone, OP. I think you're right to look for alternatives. But I also think you did a great job finding good schools for your kids with the information you had at the time.

- I think it's going to be harder to find a "good" HS alternative than it is to find a "good" elementary school alternative

- That said, you want to do your best to get your younger child into a "good" middle school pathway too

- I think ideally you'd want to find a high school that is reasonable for your older child to commute to on their own and an elementary school that is reasonable for you to commute with your younger child to.

- I think the next best option is to find two schools in close enough proximity that you can reasonably commute with them both.

Some ideas:

- Eastern, KIPP Legacy, Friendship, Thurgood for your older child to commute to themselves. All have short wait lists and a decent cohort of students passing standardized tests. Definitely ask around the neighborhood for recommendations

- Sojourner Truth is in close proximity to Stokes Brookland and is fairly well regarded

- Thomson is well-liked by families there, short waitlist, feeds into one of the better middle schools, and is sort-of on the way to MacArthur


I think that High School is more important socially and that keeping the Sophomore in the same school is a major factor. And the Sophomore really can commute on their own, so that shouldn't be as big of a factor. This, of course, depends on the kid and their relationships. If they don't make friends and hate the school, by all means find an alternative. But if they like MacArthur, I see no reason to move them.

Getting the younger child into a good middle school is, indeed, pretty important. I wonder if getting into one of the hill middles at 5th grade might be a good call to assure a decent middle school track? I live fairly far from there, so it's not my thing, but my kid is entering 5th this year, so I know there's a big shuffle at that grade.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 11:57     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

That is such a tough commute for everyone, OP. I think you're right to look for alternatives. But I also think you did a great job finding good schools for your kids with the information you had at the time.

- I think it's going to be harder to find a "good" HS alternative than it is to find a "good" elementary school alternative

- That said, you want to do your best to get your younger child into a "good" middle school pathway too

- I think ideally you'd want to find a high school that is reasonable for your older child to commute to on their own and an elementary school that is reasonable for you to commute with your younger child to.

- I think the next best option is to find two schools in close enough proximity that you can reasonably commute with them both.

Some ideas:

- Eastern, KIPP Legacy, Friendship, Thurgood for your older child to commute to themselves. All have short wait lists and a decent cohort of students passing standardized tests. Definitely ask around the neighborhood for recommendations

- Sojourner Truth is in close proximity to Stokes Brookland and is fairly well regarded

- Thomson is well-liked by families there, short waitlist, feeds into one of the better middle schools, and is sort-of on the way to MacArthur
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 09:11     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

We live EOTR in Ward 7, and next year my daughter will be commuting to Duke Ellington and my son will hopefully be commuting to McArthur (he's on the waiting list). There are a lot of us who send out kids to HS in far NW. When my daughter interviewed at Walls, we met several current students who commute from our side of town. We talked to them for a while about their commute. They were honest in that the commute is horrible, but they wouldn't want to switch schools for a better commute.

Our plan is to send them via bus and metro with other friends from the neighborhood. We have friends on the Hill who's rising freshman will be going to McArthur and their plan is to drive for drop off and have offered to shuttle my son if he needed it. I bet once you get into the school community and are settled into the neighborhood, you will also find families to commute with.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 08:31     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:People think Mccarthur is a good school bc its adjacent to several wealthy neighborhoods. It's a title 1 school - few or none of the parents who live in those neighborhoods would ever send their kids to the school as it is currently constituted. Im talking about the parents who own $2+ million sfh in those adjacent neighborhoods - not parents renting apartments around the corner or across the street from the school.


OP here… I don’t “think” anything about McA. Since my daughter is a rising 10th grader, schools like Banneker and Walls weren’t an option. This is what we got in the lottery, I could at this point consider switching to eastern… we were waitlisted for private and didn’t get low numbers for any of our charter preferences.


To agree with another poster here, "DCUM is a strange place" - and that is very true. While helpful for some questions, it is a very narrow subset of parents. I think your best bet is to talk to other parents in your neighborhood, and then weigh what is best for your family. Many families/kids do make long commutes across town and it works for them, but there is definitely a cost to that.

My vote would be reach out to Eastern - ask about their EPIC program (https://www.easternhighschooldcps.org/ourpages/auto/2020/7/28/55213143/EPIC%20Info%2024-25.pdf?rnd=1704732509155) - since you just moved, there is probably some flexibility with deadlines. You already are have a spot at McA so don't give that up yet, but go visit Eastern this month and see what you think. (and while you are at it, come back here and update the thread, b/c Eastern comes up as a point of discussion sometimes). If you go into the threads about Eastern (or Google it) - the overall test scores aren't great, but as has been discussed, that is an average that takes into account the whole school, including issues of chronic absenteeism, etc. The IB program and some of the other specialized programs have been reviewed positively by parents and there are a lot of opportunities for internships etc. (https://www.easternhighschooldcps.org/apps/pages/index.jsp?uREC_ID=456827&type=d)
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 08:22     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Stokes EE is fine. Definitely get on the waitlist.

And I would pick Eastern over MacArthur, due to the commute.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:55     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:People think Mccarthur is a good school bc its adjacent to several wealthy neighborhoods. It's a title 1 school - few or none of the parents who live in those neighborhoods would ever send their kids to the school as it is currently constituted. Im talking about the parents who own $2+ million sfh in those adjacent neighborhoods - not parents renting apartments around the corner or across the street from the school.


The parents who actually have kids there have good things to say about McArthur. Yes, it is Title 1 which means poor kids go there, but that doesn't actually make it a bad school. Everyone who goes there from outside the neighborhood makes a major effort to get there which likely selects for motivated families.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:51     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:I just saw a post on the MacArthur thread that a student commutes from Anacostia, so I hope your daughter makes friends who also live by you all. It will make the commute better for her!

Let's not mistake that Hillcrest is a beautiful neighborhood!

DCUM is a strange place OP.


OP here! Thank you for this! It really is so strange… as a first time resident of DC and while I am familiar with many schools in dc becuase of friends or work affiliates I certainly wasn’t as prepared when I entered the lottery 8 months ago.


Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:48     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:I lived in Randle Highlands (a little bit down Penn Ave, closer to the highway) for 10 years and initially commuted all the way to Petworth for my son's school and my job. It was brutal and I will always say it time I will never get back.

The commute to Brookland would be about the same in the car to MacArthur depending on traffic. The real issue is that these two schools are nothing close to each other.

It's not the way school campuses work, but I would ask Stokes about the possibility of going to EE. As for MacArthur, that is also a long commute. Kids are doing it, but it would be an over an hour commute from there. I know people who lived in Hillcrest growing up who went to St. Johns, Banneker or School without Walls for high school. So again, people do it, but its long.

Hope it all works out!


OP here… thank you for this… I actually didn’t plan for hillcrest when I was planning my move into the district. While I love the house and the neighborhood, I am worried about the commute and the time lost. It’s almost August and I can look into EE though I’m far more familiar with the brookland campus as I know other parents there. I don’t know any thing about the EE campus.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:43     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

I just saw a post on the MacArthur thread that a student commutes from Anacostia, so I hope your daughter makes friends who also live by you all. It will make the commute better for her!

Let's not mistake that Hillcrest is a beautiful neighborhood!

DCUM is a strange place OP.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:43     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:People think Mccarthur is a good school bc its adjacent to several wealthy neighborhoods. It's a title 1 school - few or none of the parents who live in those neighborhoods would ever send their kids to the school as it is currently constituted. Im talking about the parents who own $2+ million sfh in those adjacent neighborhoods - not parents renting apartments around the corner or across the street from the school.


OP here… I don’t “think” anything about McA. Since my daughter is a rising 10th grader, schools like Banneker and Walls weren’t an option. This is what we got in the lottery, I could at this point consider switching to eastern… we were waitlisted for private and didn’t get low numbers for any of our charter preferences.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:39     Subject: Re:Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:I would never do those hellish commute for those schools. McArthur really???

I don’t understand why you moved to Hillcrest without thinking about the consequences of schools and the commute. Even if your kid is older and can take public transportation, it’s still a bad commute for them. It’s a lot of lost quality time for you and your kids and it’s not even like the school is worth it.

I would move.




I’m not moving. Now that we have that out of the way….

Most of the school options weren’t available as my high schooler is a rising 10th grader. Since I am a new DC resident I did the best I could with the information I had in January… 8 whole months ago. If I weren’t worried about the long commute and lost time I would not be posting here.
Anonymous
Post 07/23/2025 07:36     Subject: Commuter nightmare- any options that you would consider?

Anonymous wrote:I would absolutely look into switching the 4th grader. There are lots of much closer options that would be fine (including Beers - if thats your IB) and other immersion schools. High school options are much more limited and your child can take public transit some by themselves so you might be stuck with McA at least for this year.


Yeah… my IB is Randle. Since my high schooler is a rising 10th grader I’m not sure that we have a ton of options.