Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:44     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ours bought TYR swim backpacks for all-stars two years ago with the team logo and swimmer's name and "all-stars 2023" on them. Obnoxious.


That is definitely going overboard. It's super weird.


Does sound like a bit much. Caps and shirts seem like enough.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:28     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:Ours bought TYR swim backpacks for all-stars two years ago with the team logo and swimmer's name and "all-stars 2023" on them. Obnoxious.


That is definitely going overboard. It's super weird.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:28     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
The last day of practice is Friday for the team. Same as every year. There is a huge team breakfast.

That makes sense since bid ins won't even know until Thursday so teams just have them not practice and then practice? That does not make any sense.

Any all stars will have practice next week to work on their events. No dinners. The team will buy the IAS cap and shirt for the swimmers but that is it.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:25     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No and its generally a bone of contention that some kids get a lot "more" out of swim team for the same fee as kids who get to go to 3 b meets. And the parent volunteer hours are the same. Prickly subject.


Agree. Our team limits practices leading up to relay swim meets to only the relay kids and limits practices the week of all stars to just the all star kids.

In general, a kid that makes all the extra meets (a lot of kids for our team) is having an entirely different experience and getting a lot more out of it. And some of those parents really don't volunteer for much at all.

Not sure there is a solution to this.

I will tell you when the constant pleas come out for volunteers, I hit delete and don't think twice about it. I feel for the team reps but think they should not send out pleas to the whole team list. Email the parents of the kids going.


Not to derail the thread, but my spouse and I have an all star swimmer and volunteered for years. We have decided not to volunteer anymore because the team decided to de-emphasize all star accomplishments in favor of "vibes". We will let the other parents pick up the slack.


You sound like a pompous jack-@ss
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:19     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:Ours bends over backwards to accommodate non-divisionals swimmers: they continue to get practices up until day before divisionals, despite no more meets .... no yard signs for us and they axed high point awards to avoid hurt feelings so it can go the opposite way too.


You resent kids on the team being able to show up and swim laps?
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:17     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No and its generally a bone of contention that some kids get a lot "more" out of swim team for the same fee as kids who get to go to 3 b meets. And the parent volunteer hours are the same. Prickly subject.


Agree. Our team limits practices leading up to relay swim meets to only the relay kids and limits practices the week of all stars to just the all star kids.

In general, a kid that makes all the extra meets (a lot of kids for our team) is having an entirely different experience and getting a lot more out of it. And some of those parents really don't volunteer for much at all.

Not sure there is a solution to this.

I will tell you when the constant pleas come out for volunteers, I hit delete and don't think twice about it. I feel for the team reps but think they should not send out pleas to the whole team list. Email the parents of the kids going.


Not to derail the thread, but my spouse and I have an all star swimmer and volunteered for years. We have decided not to volunteer anymore because the team decided to de-emphasize all star accomplishments in favor of "vibes". We will let the other parents pick up the slack.


Isn't making all stars the recognition?

Oh no! They aren't celebrating Larlo's awesomeness enough?
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:12     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Ours bends over backwards to accommodate non-divisionals swimmers: they continue to get practices up until day before divisionals, despite no more meets .... no yard signs for us and they axed high point awards to avoid hurt feelings so it can go the opposite way too.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:11     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ours doesn't. I am annoyed that they've basically told the B meet kids that practice is over for the season whereas the divisionals and all stars kids get another 2 weeks. I don't think there's a special dinner or anything, though. They did special caps for the relay kids.


Then advocate for more swim time. The problem is they have to pay the coaches and are you ok with costs increasing? Just fill in with swim lessons.


If they're still paying the coaches, then any kid should get to come, since presumably their families and registration fees are *what pays the coaches*.


For our team, today is the last day of practice for kids that do not make divisionals. Practice dates/
/schedules were sent out 3 months ago. Your kid is missing 2 days of practice and 1 day of donuts. Put down the pitchfork.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:05     Subject: Re:Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Any extra caps, shirts, meals, etc should be paid for by the individual swimmers' families. That is how our team handles it.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:03     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
No, our team does not charge more. The AS swimmers receive a new cap and shirt. The AS dinner is potluck provided by the AS swimmers family. Volunteers are provided by AS swimmers parents.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 14:00     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No and its generally a bone of contention that some kids get a lot "more" out of swim team for the same fee as kids who get to go to 3 b meets. And the parent volunteer hours are the same. Prickly subject.


Agree. Our team limits practices leading up to relay swim meets to only the relay kids and limits practices the week of all stars to just the all star kids.

In general, a kid that makes all the extra meets (a lot of kids for our team) is having an entirely different experience and getting a lot more out of it. And some of those parents really don't volunteer for much at all.

Not sure there is a solution to this.

I will tell you when the constant pleas come out for volunteers, I hit delete and don't think twice about it. I feel for the team reps but think they should not send out pleas to the whole team list. Email the parents of the kids going.


Not to derail the thread, but my spouse and I have an all star swimmer and volunteered for years. We have decided not to volunteer anymore because the team decided to de-emphasize all star accomplishments in favor of "vibes". We will let the other parents pick up the slack.


How does a team "de-emphasize all star accomplishments? What were they doing before that they stopped doing?
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 13:57     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:No and its generally a bone of contention that some kids get a lot "more" out of swim team for the same fee as kids who get to go to 3 b meets. And the parent volunteer hours are the same. Prickly subject.


Agree. Our team limits practices leading up to relay swim meets to only the relay kids and limits practices the week of all stars to just the all star kids.

In general, a kid that makes all the extra meets (a lot of kids for our team) is having an entirely different experience and getting a lot more out of it. And some of those parents really don't volunteer for much at all.

Not sure there is a solution to this.

I will tell you when the constant pleas come out for volunteers, I hit delete and don't think twice about it. I feel for the team reps but think they should not send out pleas to the whole team list. Email the parents of the kids going.


Not to derail the thread, but my spouse and I have an all star swimmer and volunteered for years. We have decided not to volunteer anymore because the team decided to de-emphasize all star accomplishments in favor of "vibes". We will let the other parents pick up the slack.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 13:52     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Ours bought TYR swim backpacks for all-stars two years ago with the team logo and swimmer's name and "all-stars 2023" on them. Obnoxious.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 13:51     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
For Divisionals and Divisional relays our team rep directly reaches out to parents to fill volunteer positions. I say yes because my kids swim in those meets.
Anonymous
Post 07/15/2025 13:50     Subject: Does your Summer Team Charge Extra for All-Star Swimmers
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Ours doesn't. I am annoyed that they've basically told the B meet kids that practice is over for the season whereas the divisionals and all stars kids get another 2 weeks. I don't think there's a special dinner or anything, though. They did special caps for the relay kids.


Then advocate for more swim time. The problem is they have to pay the coaches and are you ok with costs increasing? Just fill in with swim lessons.


If they're still paying the coaches, then any kid should get to come, since presumably their families and registration fees are *what pays the coaches*.