Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:28     Subject: Re:Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:The government already has a very clean, simple, cheap way to establish paternity when married women give birth: the child is presumed to be a product of the marriage and the woman’s husband is legally the father. Switching from that method of determining paternity to paying for tons of DNA testing and potentially blowing up families has no benefit to the state, so there’s no reason for them to require that. Furthermore, civil rights organizations would fight against huge swaths of the population having to turn over their DNA to the government when no crime has been committed.

A man can have DNA testing done without involving the government as long as he has access to the child, which, presumably, he does if he’s legally the father.


So, basically bias to the woman as if he's not the dad, too bad and he pays. He should not be presumed the legal father until a test is done. A paternity test is 10-20 via amazon. Its not expensive. A crime has been committed if mom had an affair and committed purgery on the BC saying its one man when its not.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:28     Subject: Re:Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:The government already has a very clean, simple, cheap way to establish paternity when married women give birth: the child is presumed to be a product of the marriage and the woman’s husband is legally the father. Switching from that method of determining paternity to paying for tons of DNA testing and potentially blowing up families has no benefit to the state, so there’s no reason for them to require that. Furthermore, civil rights organizations would fight against huge swaths of the population having to turn over their DNA to the government when no crime has been committed.

A man can have DNA testing done without involving the government as long as he has access to the child, which, presumably, he does if he’s legally the father.


How do you become the legal father without testing first if you're not the husband?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:27     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:I’d say the backlog of untested rape kits would be a higher priority by an order of magnitude than this, if we are going to be throwing money and hours into testing dna.


Very true, as well as other crimes.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:26     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.


+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.


No, that's exactly why its needed. Women cheats and gets a free pass. Kids have a right to know as do dad's. If the divorce happens a man should not have to pay for at least 18 years, if not longer for a child who isn't his and lied to. They should be held accountable.


Lol. Since when is pregnancy "a free pass"?


Its not the pregnancy, its the affair and lying about the affair and child.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:26     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.


+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.


???
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 19:02     Subject: Re:Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
The government already has a very clean, simple, cheap way to establish paternity when married women give birth: the child is presumed to be a product of the marriage and the woman’s husband is legally the father. Switching from that method of determining paternity to paying for tons of DNA testing and potentially blowing up families has no benefit to the state, so there’s no reason for them to require that. Furthermore, civil rights organizations would fight against huge swaths of the population having to turn over their DNA to the government when no crime has been committed.

A man can have DNA testing done without involving the government as long as he has access to the child, which, presumably, he does if he’s legally the father.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:59     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the availability of a free test at the hospital if either parent wants it. I think getting the government involved in families is a bad idea.

I suspect the percentage is lower than whatever the manosphere claims. Some men know. Others don’t care.


Not the manosphere. The numbers from 23andme and Ancestry dot com are much higher than anyone had expected.

Oh.


That isn't a random sample of the general population.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:57     Subject: Re:Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Of course not.

You need to discuss this with your wife and/or seek advice from an attorney.



Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:52     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:- of all newborns?

Also:

- what would you guess is the percentage of children born in wedlock who are genetically the father’s child?


Absolutely not.

It’s 90%+.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:47     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.


+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.


No, that's exactly why its needed. Women cheats and gets a free pass. Kids have a right to know as do dad's. If the divorce happens a man should not have to pay for at least 18 years, if not longer for a child who isn't his and lied to. They should be held accountable.


Lol. Since when is pregnancy "a free pass"?
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:46     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Hospitals don't need more to do.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:41     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:I’m fine with the availability of a free test at the hospital if either parent wants it. I think getting the government involved in families is a bad idea.

I suspect the percentage is lower than whatever the manosphere claims. Some men know. Others don’t care.


Not the manosphere. The numbers from 23andme and Ancestry dot com are much higher than anyone had expected.

Oh.


Any man who suspects anything should do one without the mom's knowledge.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:40     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:I’d say the backlog of untested rape kits would be a higher priority by an order of magnitude than this, if we are going to be throwing money and hours into testing dna.


Two seperate issues. They can require health insurance to pay. It should be done at the hospital at the time of the birth.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:39     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:Why?? I think they can already mandate it if someone is trying to reject paternity, right?


Courts can order paternity tests or they can just say father is on the birth certificate so no need to test as he agreed (even if he didn't as a woman can put anyone down and that's final). Even if its not his child and he's supported the child, he can be forced to continue to support the child. All the rights protect the women cheaters.
Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 18:38     Subject: Would you support mandatory genetic testing for paternity?
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Bad idea and total overreach.


+1 terrible idea. I have two very close friends who both have children fathered by AP’s instead of their H’s. This would wreck probably 10-20% of marriages.


HORRIBLE IDEA.

+1 mandating sending a vulnerable woman who has just given birth and her newborn home with her husband and that new knowledge is like an engraved invitation to domestic violence.


How about the man who thinks the child is his and was cheated on and lied to? That doesn't necesssarily equate to DV, but a man would probably choose to leave the wife/woman and that is reasonable. He shouldn't have to support a child that isn't his and live in a sham marriage.

Why is it ok when women cheat and not men? Why is it ok for women to lie to men about if they are the father or not?

Let me guess, you had an affair and your husband is not the father.