Anonymous
Post 07/11/2025 01:19     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.


No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.


They are large state schools with 30% acceptance rate in-state. They don’t compare at all to these 4k-6k test required schools with 4% acceptance rates and undergrad focus. Not knocking that they are good public universities, but they don’t come close to the Ivy experience.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 23:01     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes


One would hope that every college was filled with wannabes otherwise there would be no bes. If your DC is not a wannabe you messed up.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 22:42     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…

No, Stanford isn’t the top. Today’s ranking should be 1. MIT 2. Harvard 3. Stanford
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 22:33     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.


No, it refers to the eight schools in the Ivy League.

UVA and Michigan are fine schools on their own and don’t need wear borrowed glory.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 22:33     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…


OP asked why people use term Ivy in general sense. I haven’t personally noticed that, but regardless people are commenting on their claim no one would choose certain schools over MIT and Stanford which is false. No one is claiming they aren’t good schools, of course they are. Not sure I’m understanding your point?
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 22:26     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Rather than just piling on, OP has a point.

2 of the 3 top schools in the country -Stanford and MIT - are non-Ivies. Stanford has passed Harvard for the tops in the country.

If we get to the lower ivies, we could name twice as many non-Ivy schools at the same level…
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 18:52     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Countless you say? And you know of one?


I have one as well. Didn’t want to go to school on the West Coast, didn’t want to go to a tech school. Really not that complicated


Same. My kid isn’t STEM. He had zero interest in MIT or the West Coast. He went for fit. He didn’t apply to MIT or Stanford. Such a strange post. It’s also funny when you consider many of these kids had these B, C, D as a first choice- and with 4-5% acceptance rates the vast majority applying will not get in. This forum is filled with parents whose kids will not or did not get accepted tearing down others. I really wonder about the psychology behind that. These schools are so different. A kid that likes a Brown or Dartmouth is very different from a kid that likes MIT or Stanford and it’s not grades/test scores or GPA- they are identical in that part. All 99.9% in those areas.
+1
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 11:35     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes


That is such a dumb term. Ivies and similar elite privates are not that different from each other as far as the students they take


Sure, but the term "lower Ivies" or "lower Ivys" refers to level of prestige, not level of academics qualifications of students.


Prestige varies too and by circles. I vote we start with public ivies being shunned over lower, so silly.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 11:31     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Lower ivies (3 of them) are filled with wannabes


That is such a dumb term. Ivies and similar elite privates are not that different from each other as far as the students they take


Sure, but the term "lower Ivies" or "lower Ivys" refers to level of prestige, not level of academics qualifications of students.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 11:18     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
Well, Ivy also refers to the ivys of public colleges, which includes UVA and Michigan, among other public ivies.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 09:32     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Countless you say? And you know of one?


I have one as well. Didn’t want to go to school on the West Coast, didn’t want to go to a tech school. Really not that complicated


Same. My kid isn’t STEM. He had zero interest in MIT or the West Coast. He went for fit. He didn’t apply to MIT or Stanford. Such a strange post. It’s also funny when you consider many of these kids had these B, C, D as a first choice- and with 4-5% acceptance rates the vast majority applying will not get in. This forum is filled with parents whose kids will not or did not get accepted tearing down others. I really wonder about the psychology behind that. These schools are so different. A kid that likes a Brown or Dartmouth is very different from a kid that likes MIT or Stanford and it’s not grades/test scores or GPA- they are identical in that part. All 99.9% in those areas.


Mine is STEM and still wasn’t interested, much preferred others based on fit factors.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 09:32     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
^test required
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 09:31     Subject: Re:"Ivy"
At that level Applicants are interchangeable. Kids will randomly get into one and not the other of the 8 Ivies, MIT, Stanford, etc. kids that get into HPY or S often get rejected at Dartmouth or Brown. Or a kid gets into Harvard and rejected at Yale. As the pp says, at this caliber the applicants are identical in academics/scores, etc, especially with text required.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 09:28     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:What kind of stupid post is this?

There are countless kids who are attending Dartmouth or Brown over MIT or Stanford. I have one.


Countless you say? And you know of one?


I have one as well. Didn’t want to go to school on the West Coast, didn’t want to go to a tech school. Really not that complicated


Same. My kid isn’t STEM. He had zero interest in MIT or the West Coast. He went for fit. He didn’t apply to MIT or Stanford. Such a strange post. It’s also funny when you consider many of these kids had these B, C, D as a first choice- and with 4-5% acceptance rates the vast majority applying will not get in. This forum is filled with parents whose kids will not or did not get accepted tearing down others. I really wonder about the psychology behind that. These schools are so different. A kid that likes a Brown or Dartmouth is very different from a kid that likes MIT or Stanford and it’s not grades/test scores or GPA- they are identical in that part. All 99.9% in those areas.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 09:27     Subject: "Ivy"
Anonymous wrote:So glad you got that off your chest.


+1 lol