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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

You are out of touch. The requirements and expecatations are much higher than in 1997.

DP the listed requirements are more but what we were advised to do back then was about the same. At my undergrad all of us did research for at least 3-4 semesters, the premed campus groups had clinical hours designed for premeds that we did during the semester, &many of us were EMTs. This school had an 80% acceptance rate then and 88% now, T15 private with a med school on campus.

My wife is a physician as well as are many of our adult friends. We all had hundreds of hours of volunteer time. The national acceptance rate was 34% the year we applied, lower than the recent 39-42. Our school had a committee meeting that you had to "pass" to get a letter to be "approved" to apply. They are not as harsh now, though my undergrad has many more 99%ile types now, so they probably do not have to discourage as many. It really is not that much harder, comparing my undergrad to the same undergrad and to my kid's current ivy.

The premeds I advise as part of shadowing in my hospital are not doing any more than my cohort did. One repeated mistake I see is not challenging themselves with courses when they can: they take the minimum requirements, not realizing their successful peers take more upper level sciences and take all stem at the home school rather than at an easier university or CC down the road. Med schools can spot someone phoning it in/doing the minimum from far away, and the T25 med programs particularly frown on it. That was also true years ago, and the committee did not mince words when they explained what was expected.

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Anonymous wrote: I listen to a Chicago radio station via their app. Everyday, I hear a commercial for Arizona State Online School and a “student” explains she is currently in med school and all her online classes online, how the schedule worked for her, etc. As the parent of an attending physician (he is currently 34), I remember my DS going thru the process of applying to med school. Át that time, community college credits were not accepted for the required courses. Have the times simply changed or is this false advertising?

Many nursing students often claim to be in med school.

I have seen this before also. The term they often use is "pre-health."

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

You are out of touch. The requirements and expecatations are much higher than in 1997.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

I only have kids in high school, and at least one is considering the pre-med track. Can you explain how the med school application process is more difficult? Is it because med schools are more selective so your child applied to more med schools than colleges?

DP. I don't know all the ins and outs bc DC has been doing the apps, not me. It's a multilayered process, though. It seems that there's a preliminary application, then a secondary application, if you make that cut, then an interview, if you make that cut. In addition to high GPA, high science GPA, and high MCAT score, you're supposed to have job shadowing, research, work experience, volunteering...probably a lot more that I'm forgetting.

The timing is completely different, too. I think it catches people off guard. You have to start the process in fall (or summer before) of junior year to really get all your ducks in a row.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

DP - I think PP meant "supporting" her child. Bad choice of words in her post but, still, I think you are being harsh.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

Some kids graduate younger than others. Mine is 19. A lot of people take gap years between college and med school but some don’t.

Many, many med schools (top ones included) accept some online undergrad courses.

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Ridiculous. Your adult child should have applied on their own. Will you be treating patients with them, too?

I doubt this poster is doing it for the kid, just supporting them and so on.

Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Same. A whole new world. Waiting in MCAT score out next week. Good luck to you and yours!

I work at a med school and I can tell you they are not all the same. I’ve even heard of test optional schools. But those students won’t get matched into residencies.

Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Ridiculous. Your adult child should have applied on their own. Will you be treating patients with them, too?

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Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

Is the parent who "just finished went through the application process" also a physician?

Anonymous wrote:OP here. I did not mean online med school. I meant 100% online undergrad. Since you have a current applicant to med school, is there a stipulation that the required courses must be at a typical brick and mortar school vs an online school? When my DS applied to med school, he couldn't take an Organic Chem class at a community college.

A lot of online schools still offer in person labs when necessary. So their “coursework” is 100% online but labs are not.

Maybe you’re confusing Arizona State with the University of Phoenix?

Arizona State is a legit university.

U of Phoenix is a for-profit shakedown with lower quality than many community colleges.

Anonymous wrote:Are you asking if med school classes are online? I just finished the med school application process with my child. It’s worse in many ways than the undergrad process

Curious why are you involved, they are an adult? No one helped us years ago, no one helped my premed and their friends who got in without help other than the school's advisors/faculty. It really has not changed dramatically since 1997, in fact now the requirements are all listed in detail, the "encouraged" experiences (clinical/shadowing, science research) are now required so it is less nebulous and less reliant on having excellent premed advising to explain the "suggestions" are mandatory.

Zero chance for med school in the US.