Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 11:31     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Sounded like a fun night.
Anonymous
Post 07/14/2025 06:41     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not to mention it causes cancer. The less you drink, the better. I have wine once or twice a year and never more than two glasses.


That’s not what the data show. What was shown was there was “no safe level” shown in retrospective observational studies. You won’t really be able to establish a safe level without a prospective study with a control arm. So it’s unremarkable they weren’t able to establish a safe level.

As for the connection to cancer, they can correlate higher alcohol use with higher cancer incidence but they can’t isolate alcohol as the cause vs other lifestyle factors.

All things being equal, you can drink more than 4 glasses of wine a year without increasing your cancer risk. M

The link between cigarettes and cancer is far better established and, if not addictive, you could have several cigarettes a year without a meaningful impact on your overall health.

The concept of “no safe level” bleeding into news as entertainment and reporting on complex science without explaining study design is deleterious to society. There’s a safe level of every substance. It could be microscopic but nothing is toxic at *any* level. There’s a maximum level of uranium exposure in drinking water yet people think alcohol has no safe level.


Interestingly, I know 3 people in their 80s who were daily smokers since their teens and they are all still alive while the daily wine drinkers I know all somehow ended up with breast cancer. Most are dead now (died in their 60s or 70s from cancer).

Alcohol is a known carcinogen.


Wow very compelling you should see about getting that published in NEJM.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2025 15:26     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Shots?!? I’d be dead. Can barely handle a second glass of white wine without getting a headache. And I’m 47. Ah to be young again when i would take shot after shot and wake up fresh as a daisy the next day! lol
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2025 09:37     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:Hangover is middle age is next-level torture and so not worth it. The thing is, I still have friends who can drink like fish and seem to do just fine. I, on the other hand, cannot tolerate alcohol. I wonder if this is genetic. My harder-drinking friends have Germanic or British ancestry.


The daily drinkers can tolerate more and function better. Of course they are pounding ibuprofen the next day.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2025 09:35     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Not to mention it causes cancer. The less you drink, the better. I have wine once or twice a year and never more than two glasses.


That’s not what the data show. What was shown was there was “no safe level” shown in retrospective observational studies. You won’t really be able to establish a safe level without a prospective study with a control arm. So it’s unremarkable they weren’t able to establish a safe level.

As for the connection to cancer, they can correlate higher alcohol use with higher cancer incidence but they can’t isolate alcohol as the cause vs other lifestyle factors.

All things being equal, you can drink more than 4 glasses of wine a year without increasing your cancer risk. M

The link between cigarettes and cancer is far better established and, if not addictive, you could have several cigarettes a year without a meaningful impact on your overall health.

The concept of “no safe level” bleeding into news as entertainment and reporting on complex science without explaining study design is deleterious to society. There’s a safe level of every substance. It could be microscopic but nothing is toxic at *any* level. There’s a maximum level of uranium exposure in drinking water yet people think alcohol has no safe level.


Interestingly, I know 3 people in their 80s who were daily smokers since their teens and they are all still alive while the daily wine drinkers I know all somehow ended up with breast cancer. Most are dead now (died in their 60s or 70s from cancer).

Alcohol is a known carcinogen.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2025 08:44     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Limoncello can have quite a bit of sugar. For some people sugary drinks make the hangover worse. For me it started in my mid forties and has gotten worse. I’ve found red wine keeps me up half the night and gives me a headache. It’s gotten to the point where I can’t even drink a glass of red wine. OP keep rehydrating and if you have it drink some sort of sugar free sports drink - liquid iv no sugar, propel, Gatorade G2 etc.
Anonymous
Post 07/13/2025 08:33     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
How old are you?

Drinking shots sounds like college students, who model their lives after reality TV.

Mature adults drink in moderation, if at all,
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 23:02     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:Hangover is middle age is next-level torture and so not worth it. The thing is, I still have friends who can drink like fish and seem to do just fine. I, on the other hand, cannot tolerate alcohol. I wonder if this is genetic. My harder-drinking friends have Germanic or British ancestry.


I’m British and get horrible hangovers!
Anonymous
Post 07/12/2025 21:25     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Age 44 and rarely drink now. Never more than 2. And with 2 I feel worn down the next day. Still worth it sometimes but those times are getting less and less.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 21:05     Subject: Re:Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drinking to the point of a hangover as an adult is an interesting life choice, OP. Just because it's there doesn't mean you need to binge on it.

Do you get hungover every 6 weeks?


Damn you’re annoying.


If you're that defensive and upset over a random anon's comment, you may have a problem.


What? You are crazy.

OP: I can't even drink anymore. Had some sangria two days ago, had migraine in the evening. Ate some cherries soaked in the sangria yesterday, another migraine. It is kind of sad because I do like to enjoy a glass from time to time and get a little buzz.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 13:55     Subject: Re:Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:
Anonymous wrote:Drinking to the point of a hangover as an adult is an interesting life choice, OP. Just because it's there doesn't mean you need to binge on it.

Do you get hungover every 6 weeks?


Damn you’re annoying.


If you're that defensive and upset over a random anon's comment, you may have a problem.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 13:49     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Hangover is middle age is next-level torture and so not worth it. The thing is, I still have friends who can drink like fish and seem to do just fine. I, on the other hand, cannot tolerate alcohol. I wonder if this is genetic. My harder-drinking friends have Germanic or British ancestry.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 13:08     Subject: Re:Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Hangovers are debilitating in our old age! I drink fairly regularly and once I hit 37, I had to find what works and no longer works for me anymore. Wine is a killer! No more than one glass for me or I feel it the next day. Beer and clear liquor is more tolerable now for me.
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 11:15     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
Anonymous wrote:OP - you sound like a bizarrely fragile person.

If you can't handle a single, fun night out with friends without feeling weak and sick, I'm guessing you wither in the face of any tough demands life throws your way.



What a strange post. You ok?
Anonymous
Post 07/10/2025 07:15     Subject: Hangover. Drinking sucks!
I am 50 and don’t have these deleterious effects after a few drinks. I have actively cut down to maintain my weight so I have a few drinks Friday and Saturday. I feel fine. I wish I could drink more days but the fearmongering got to me and I can’t afford the calories. But 3 drinks one night I feel totally fine the next day. I hear a lot of people say they can’t handle it anymore so maybe it’s coming for me? Or not?