Anonymous
07/06/2025 12:22
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:so my DC is a high gpa mid-test score kid being recruited for their sport - it may sound odd but most interest is coming from an ivy (lower tier by the thread earlier today lol) and USF. But question for DCUM land is would you choose a full ride to a lower ranked, albeit good state school like USF over a Penn, Brown, or Dartmouth full pay? We can afford full pay, but would be a great start for our DC basically giving them that money to kick start their life? Kid wants to go into business, but very open ended on that front entrepreneurial studies to sales to finance.
100% take free college. Saving $400K is amazing and you can give DC $250K in cash for a down payment on a home.
Also SF is a great place to go to school and work!
Congrats to your DC!
Anonymous
07/06/2025 12:12
Subject: Re:USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Ivy. You can afford it. He will still get to play the sport. When he is 25 or 33, being from Dartmouth will have more benefits than being from USF.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 12:09
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
Meh, who cares. They'll still get hired over your kid when the hiring partner sells it as, "AND they were the WR at Princeton!"
Anonymous
07/06/2025 12:06
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
If you can shell out $100K a year and be completely unaffected, then why not an Ivy? Don't worry about the poster who indicated it may be too difficult to excel academically. The hardest part is getting in.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 11:21
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
LOL - you are incredibly wrong or just plain ignorant
Anonymous
07/06/2025 11:19
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
Omg. No they aren’t. My kid is on club and is good friend with several varsity athletes, some walk ons. For most sports, they had to have the same academic record to be admitted. Yes- they aren t celebrated and treated differently like at the big sport universities, with separate dormitories and dining halls. They get the same random room assignments and live among the students not in their special world.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 11:15
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:I know a kid who plays football/basketball at an Ivy. Super smart - likely would have gotten in anyway. Not a superstar athlete but definitely a contributor. I have met some of their teammates and there is definitely a range. Some are like this kid. Others clearly are less strong academically. Similarly, some of the smartest people I have worked with on Wall Street are former Ivy athletes.
I would not generalize because there is a wide range (and even the less bright kids are not dumb).
Not true as I know well a current Ivy League athlete who was admitted "test-optional" who refrains from speaking during class because he/she didn't want to continue to be laughed at in humanities classes.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 11:01
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
I know a kid who plays football/basketball at an Ivy. Super smart - likely would have gotten in anyway. Not a superstar athlete but definitely a contributor. I have met some of their teammates and there is definitely a range. Some are like this kid. Others clearly are less strong academically. Similarly, some of the smartest people I have worked with on Wall Street are former Ivy athletes.
I would not generalize because there is a wide range (and even the less bright kids are not dumb).
I would not generalize because there is a wide range (and even the less bright kids are not dumb).
Anonymous
07/06/2025 10:51
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
My Yale kid and friends might generalize that sports recruits are not as intellectual, but they seem to have plenty of respect for them as athletes. I’ve never heard any mocking or begrudging their admittance.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 10:34
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
It seems like the common factor between those two schools is your kids. Who raised them so poorly as to mock people?
Anonymous
07/06/2025 10:32
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
Are you willing to name the two Ivy League schools at which student athletes are mocked ? (I assume that Columbia may be one of those two schools; is Princeton the other ?)
Anonymous
07/06/2025 10:18
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Anonymous wrote:The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Ivy athletes are mocked at both of my kids ivies. There are so many who can’t keep up in the harder classes, most are seen as nonacademic and everyone knows they got in on sports talent. It’s not like other schools where sports are valued. Sports dont matter at ivies.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 09:34
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
Are kids in your kid's sport able to play 4 years, keep their scholarships and pursue their choice of majors? I would talk to athletes, and ask those questions.
If sports weren't a factor, then I'd probably suggest taking an academic full ride but I would want a lot more info about the lives of athletes at the school.
If sports weren't a factor, then I'd probably suggest taking an academic full ride but I would want a lot more info about the lives of athletes at the school.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 09:30
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
The networking value of being an Ivy athlete isn’t being properly weighted in this thread.
Anonymous
07/06/2025 09:27
Subject: USF full ride vs Ivy full pay
You cannot pass up a free ride IMHO. So, I'd say USF.